On “The 700 Club” today, Pat Robertson fielded a question from a viewer who wondered why her husband hasn’t been healed from a medical condition despite intense prayer.
Robertson responded that the woman’s husband probably isn’t a faithful Christian and may actually want to be sick: “There are some people, you know, they enjoy their sickness. That is terrible to say but that is their excuse not to compete, ‘well I’d love to compete but my lumbago’s got me so I can’t do it.”
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“Pat Robertson probably isn’t a faithful Christian and may actually want to be an idiot: There are some people, you know, they enjoy their stupidity. That is terrible to say but that is their excuse not to use their brains, well I’d love to be smart but my religion's got me so I can’t do it.”
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"Robertson responded that the woman’s husband probably isn’t a faithful Christian"
...but what do you bet that Patty-boy himself has medical insurance?
Senility-based ignorance is bliss,eh? At least you can plead 'Plausible Deniability' should you be called out on such, though.
At least Sir Terry Pratchett is doing something about Alzheimers.
TAKE HIM TO A FUCKING HOSPITAL! This isn't funny, this is just scary. When someone is sick, you don't just sit by their bed wishing for them to feel better. Do that by all means if it makes you feel better, but first you get them proper medical attention! Robertson, if this man is ill, injured or, god forbid, dead due from preventable causes that would have been no problem if he had received proper help, then at least part of the blame for that falls squarely on your head.
a viewer who wondered why her husband hasn’t been healed from a medical condition despite intense prayer.
A man was sitting in despair on his rooftop in a catastrophic flood. He raised his voice to heaven and said "Save me! Send me a sign!" A voice came back from heaven "I'll do just that." About an hour later a small boat arrived gathering rescuers, but the man was waiting for the sign, so he turned it away. The waters rose. A helicopter flew by and signaled that it wanted to pick the man up, but he was still waiting for his sign, so it flew on. As the waters rose higher, about to engulf the man, he cried out again to heaven "You said you'd send me a sign!" and a voice came back "I sent you a boat and a helicopter, what else do you want?" Moral: pray all you want, but if you want to recover, get practical attention.
It should be noted that Pat Robertson himself is not averse to means other than prayer for help with medical problems.
Let's see you jump over a bungalow, Pat. Because if you really can leg-press 2,000 pounds, you ought to be able to!
What is it with these wingnuts and their obsession with digging below the bottom of the barrel? Are they on a race to the Earth's core? GOOD! BURN BABY BURN!
To that lady, praying for someone's healing is nice and good and all, but you still need a good medical professional. Prayer is more of a supplemental thing, ya know.
So Gobs is like one of those genies that says, "this is what you wanted, right?" when it's obviously a bad outcome. Right.
I wonder how anyone would believe a deity is like that.
Ah. So all those thousands of children dying in the children's hospitals secretly like the idea of growing weaker and weaker until their six and eight and ten year old bodies finally give out and die. No wonder all those prayers haven't been putting so much as a dent in the problem. Good to know.
At least this hopefully gave her and her husband a bit of insight regarding their beliefs, I guess.
Oh, the old fail-safe; he wasn't praying hard enough...
When I believe in & pray to Deity, I feel Ben Franklin's comment "God helps those who help themselves" was right on the money.
Deity is a power that can't do much until you make the first move. Deity provides guidance strength & such but Deity will not do everything for you.
Also, Deity, as an independent being in the sky somewhere, likely doesn't exist. Godhead is more of a Pantheist thing. All that exist is Deity and all these beings/names (YHVH, Elohim, Brahman, Allah, etc.) are simply just anthropomorphized archetypes.
As such, prayer does move mountains...but you need to be the one doing the action to move the mountain. Prayer, faith healing rituals, etc. should never replace medicine, it should just be a support thing. Prayer is just to add extra healing energy, to help the doctors do things well, to keep you strong & comforted so you can hopefully heal better. Mind over matter. Like energy attracts like energy.
Robertson is a sick ghoul who "blames the victim" & that lady should take her hubby to the hospital A.S.A.P!
Dear Pat,
Please die immediately.
Regards,
Everyone else.
Pat DIAF!
That's right DIAF!!!
Isn't this always how it goes? "Oh, you're not getting the result you want? You must not be praying right/hard enough and/or you aren't putting enough faith in God!" It's always the person's fault for not being a good enough Christian.
Saying someone "wants to be sick" is kind of an even lower low, though. Way to go.
A normal, non-frum pastor would just comfort this woman, tell her to stay strong, state that if the worst happens, it was her husband's appointed time to "go home". If she's neglecting hospital care, the pastor would tell her to take her husband to the doctor. Through it all, a normal, non-frum pastor would try to be comforting and understanding.
Frum-pastors & guys like Pat, however, crank up the victim-blaming & "You/he are not praying hard enough!".
Screw you, Pat!
Besides, St. Luke was a physician.
So a nurse took up too much of Pat's valuable time asking him about his medical history and the drugs he took? It couldn't be that the doctor might want to know these things before suggesting treatment -- obviously the only point was to waste his time.
God, please take Pat home now. Oral Roberts, Jim Bakker and Fred Phelps are tired of waiting for him.
Some people seem to enjoy their unfathomable stupidity. In fact, they seem to enjoy being complete arseholes.
Anything to avoid the fairly obvious fact that prayer doesn't work.
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