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[Could you be friends with an atheist?]

Can light have fellowship with darkness?.... I say no, I would find it hard to be friends with an atheist, I actually have one atheist in my family (not close kin though), when I found out they were an atheist, I feel bad about saying this but I lost alot of respect for that person... The person has never been outspoken about that, but she actually got mad at someone who lost a family member in an accident after they were saying things like they would see them again, she got mad and actually physically attacked her, telling her that there is no God, now I can't respect anyone like that family or not... Atheist and those given over to absolute mockery and rebellion toward God, there is no reason to put yourself in the position to be around that kind of garbage.... Also since your born again, I would suspect its hard to be around that stuff, I can't even stand to be around people who drink, cuss, and blaspheme with every breath (which describes almost all my former friends), notice I call them former friends... I still hope and pray for them but I will not hang around them anymore, because it grieves me too much.

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old comment by dionysus

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"Mmmmyes, I don't associate with atheists because I'm sooooooooo much better than them. I AM born-again after all. I don't waste my time with riffraff that were born only once".

Yeah, that's really what you sound like, you self-righteous prick. You can keep your friendship and I'm sure nobody wants to be friends with someone who constantly looks down on them anyway. The huge irony here being that you represent EXACTLY what Jesus hated: hypocrites who think they're better than everyone else and make outcasts of people. You're just like the freaking pharisees and the funny thing is your self-righteous sense of superiority makes you miss this glaring contradiction between the teacher you claim to follow and your actual actions.

EDIT: I see Michael the Christian beat me too it.

old comment by Reverend Jeremiah

And yet we are supposed to respect you when you completely FLOOD us atheists with your god talk when one of ours have died? And you have no shame but to stand over the corpse of that dead relative to use as a soap box to push your imaginary friend worship? It DISGUSTS me the depth that the religious will go to spread that magical thinking and garbage talk.

If my newborn baby had just died, I do not want to hear "she's in a better place" like you fucked in the brain fundies say. She is NOT in a better place.... unless you think being DEAD is a better place for a baby than being alive in her mothers loving arms.

Think about it.

(sorry, just recently lost a neice, and it seems my younger brother is just starting to realize that atheism actually makes sense, as he blew up on a few of my fundy family members for saying things like that...I would rather have my neice back..thats a hard way to learn)

old comment by WWWWolf

> Can light have fellowship with darkness?.... I say no,

I've been friends with people who have vastly different opinions than I do. Why? We know we disagree with those points, and we won't start arguing about them. That would only lead to both of us getting mad. Instead, we work on things we can both agree on.

> Also since your born again, I would suspect its hard to be around that stuff, I can't even stand to be around people who drink, cuss, and blaspheme with every breath (which describes almost all my former friends), notice I call them former friends...

And I'm using Linux, yet I don't think my friends who still use Windows are automatically idiots, nor do I think the friends who switched to OS X are bloody traitorous heretics. We just get along, see?

I thought "friendship" was a concept that was supposed to unite people over small differences like difference in opinions. Or change of opinions. If you have to drop friends because of your convictions, either they weren't good friends to begin with or your convictions demand unreasonable things from you. If the only thing that causes you to drop friends is that you suddenly disapprove of things that you previously had no problem with, perhaps it's the latter.

old comment by Pule Thamex

Absolute mockery and rebellion towards God? Yes indeed, and there's not a thing that God, nor you, can do about it. That's how impotent both you and He are. God has become too used to His imprisonment within your skull to deal effectively with the outside world let alone deal effectively internally with you. However, I must admit that both you and God are fairly amusing concepts.

By the way, I offer the above as a gift of persecution for you, I don't really believe in God wherever He is imagined to reside, as, obviously, I'm an atheist. But I hope that I've gone some way towards helping you to fulfill this weeks quota of persecution. Let me know if you need more. I'm always ready to help out with the persecution. In return, I'm expecting a thrilling display of aerobatics.

old comment by GigaGuess

@TGRwulf

Re: Unbeliever attacking a family member. While I think it may be grossly overstated, I can see someone seeing the vacant "It's okay...we'll see him in heaven" to be grating on someone who has lost soeone they love too...particularly if, and given the average RR mentality, it would not shock me if this was the case, they took the death of said loved one, and turned into "hey, let's convert the unbeliever" by telling her that unless she repents and finds Jesus, she'll be consigned to hell, and never see the person again. Ergo, lashing out.

Granted, I'm interpreting and reading a lot in, but there's a part of me that doubts I'm that far off base.

old comment by Zeus Almighty

If you actually believed your fairy mumbo jumbo, you would hang around atheists; then, by the example you set and that old "joy"(1) you people claim to receive through your sky buddy(2) your atheist friend my say to himself that maybe there is something to that christianity stuff.
Or, you could, you know, just be a self-righteous douche.(3)

P.S. I doubt your friends are broken up over your absence from their lives.
(1) The christianist definition of joy is not to be confused with, you know, actual joy.

(2) Jebus hung out with prostitutes and helped pagan Romans.

(3) Or maybe when you are in the presence of intelligent atheists and they start talking they make sense. And then you have to go go to your closet and masturbate, er, I mean pray.

old comment by NoriMori

Of all my close friends, most are either Hindu or Muslim. A few are atheist, and at least one is nominally Christian.

Islam is one of the Abrahamic religions, just like Christianity, so I'm gonna use it as an analogy: None of my religious friends shove their beliefs down my throat, none of them have even the slightest problem with my being atheist, and none of them even ever talk about their religious beliefs. They do talk about some of their religious rituals, especially if they might affect us (e.g. One of my Muslim friends is doing Ramadan right now, and that means she can't go swimming because water might get in her mouth... -_-), but we don't mind that, and even welcome it, because it's fascinating. When I'm at my Hindu friends' houses, I love to look at their little altars, and they tell me the names of all the deity statues, and the incense smells so lovely...

In short atheists and theists can get along fine, as long as neither are asswipes. All atheists can't be asswipes, so if you can't be friends with any of them, then who's the asswipe here?

old comment by Michael the Christian

LOL, I just found this somewhere else on RR: http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?137053-50-Marks-Of-A-Pharisee-by-Greg-Gordon

3. A Pharisee does not mingle with unconverted people.

Read: Matthew 9:11 "When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, 'Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners'?"

Not associating with unbelievers is not holiness. Jesus was a friend of sinners not a condemner of them but a savior. Jesus would have gone to an unconverted relative’s wedding reception. He did not avoid sinners, His righteousness was inside. How will you win sinners if you do not seek to be friendly with them. How many converted people in your church have been bought by you? Probably zero after 20 years. You are a Pharisee.

The fact that the person who posted that still has his account leads me to believe that RR did not disagree with what he said. Looks like even RR thinks that dionysus and I were spot-on with the "Pharisee" call.

I also like how most of the things on that list apply to the RR mods or the RR populace in general.

old comment by gingerninja

Screw you.

I'm a proud atheist and one of my best friends is a proud Christian, from a devout family, who has no shame whatsoever in talking about it. We've had very interesting, intelligent and friendly conversations about religion of all types and the existance of God.

She and her family are wonderful, do good things because they want to help people (not because God told them to) and are more than willing to include anyone, regardless of that person's lifestyle or beliefs. And you know what? I do that too, even though I'm an ATHEIST. I volunteer at the local special school because I love working with kids. I donate to charities because I want to help out. Just like my friend.

My friend, I believe, is a true Christian, someone who honestly believes that God is all loving and does not turn someone down simply because they are not the same. And people like you, give people like here a bad name.

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