The idea that a supreme being either always existed or came into existence at some point and then intelligently created the universe just makes more sense
An intelligently created universe fashioned by nothing....sorry no, odds are good someone you admire in your life is an atheist and believes this, or you grew up with family that thought you should believe in this. The idea that the universe magically popped into existence, MAGICALLY creating anything when it is not a living being and has no intelligence is just garbage fed to you by your professors/family members who are atheists and hate "god" because of something bad that happend in their life
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Soooooo ... the development of the universe and complex life through natural laws, which can be rationally deduced and understood, relies on "magic" while having an invisible sky fairy shout "Abracadabra" to make everything pop into existence does not?
Now, who's been eating garbage here?
I can no more hate your god than I can hate, say, Lord Voldemort. Sure, as a literary character I find YHWH to be unworthy of being called an abscess on the buttock of an amoeba, but ultimately the Christian god is just that to me, a literary character. I put down the book, stop fuming at the imaginary injustices done to imaginary characters by another, bigger imaginary character, and I get on with my life.
If I could be said to hate your god on any level, then I suppose one could say I hate the effects the god meme has on minds like yours, my dear fundy. I hate the parasitic idea that has atrophied your poor mind into a slurry of regurgitated arguments and prayer. I hate the overarching ideal that has enslaved so many, for so long.
But even then, I think that's more the fault of the priests and kings who exploit the idea, than the god idea itself. And those bastards I can get some real, seething, white-hot loathing going for, because they're at least real.
I'm sorry but no. It's one thing to believe that God created the world through evolution (I've heard this one, from Christians who have the intelligence to realize Genesis 1-3 is not an eyewitness report), but to believe that evolutionary theory includes the universe magically poofing things into existence is just silly.
"The idea that the universe and all the wonders within it just magically popped into existence by itself, out of nothing at all, is PREPOSTEROUS!
Clearly, a living, intelligent, immensely powerful being magically popped into existence all by itself, out of nothing at all--or has simply existed forever, for no reason, without having to be created itself--and created everything else by speaking it into existence!"
The primal surge of big-bang energy and its cause are the main unknowables of the universe. Everything subsequent to that follows naturally.
god is a parasite. god's preachers eat the parasite's flesh.
"The idea that a supreme being either always existed or came into existence at some point and then intelligently created the universe just makes more sense"
Making "more sense" has little to do with anything. It's the evidence that matters. Just ask anyone studying quantum physics if it "makes sense" or not.
"An intelligently created universe fashioned by nothing"
I'm sorry but "intelligently created" and "formed by nothing" are mutually exclusive properties. What you've just said is nonsensical.
"sorry no, odds are good someone you admire in your life is an atheist and believes this, or you grew up with family that thought you should believe in this."
I'm pretty sure nobody believes this, for reasons stated above.
"The idea that the universe magically popped into existence, MAGICALLY creating anything when it is not a living being and has no intelligence is just garbage fed to you by your professors/family members who are atheists and hate "god" because of something bad that happend in their life"
You'd probably have trouble finding an atheist who thinks the universe "magically popped into existence".
Atheists also don't hate god as they don't think any god exists. Hating something you don't think exists is quite irrational and would be akin to hating Santa for not bringing you presents.
If only you could explain how this infinite being exists.
Because, you know... It doesn't quite make any damn sense.
The universe is too complicated, so it requires a maker.
Wait a minute, that would make your maker more complicated than the universe.. so how did he come about? Huh? He magically poped into being or he always existed?
Why dont you STFU now that youve shot yourself in the foot!
big bang: Natural forces
God: Magic
"The idea that a supreme being either always existed or came into existence at some point and then intelligently created the universe just makes more sense"
I think that proves youre the one who thinks everything came about by magic, dickhead.
This argument is so illogical it hurts...
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