if atheism isnt evil why does it try to normalize homosexuality abortion rape murder and all those other things there are no morals with it and thus america gets destroyed
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[if atheism isnt evil...]
Who says it is?
[...why does it try to normalize homosexuality abortion rape murder and all those other things]
Let me guess...you haven't actually talked to any atheists, have you?
[there are no morals with it]
That horse is dead, dude. Why are you still trying to ride it?
[and thus america gets destroyed]
How does atheism endanger America? Please be specific, and include charts and graphs as appropriate.
Foolish.
Do you understand how perspective works and the fallacy of absolute good and evil existing?
Of course you don't.
I can't be bothered to explain it to you, you make me exhausted.
Does homosexuality hurt people?
Does abortion hurt people?
Lumping murder in there as well is a crap attempt at a strawman.
How does America get destoyed because people choose to only condemn actions which hurt others?
Atheist here.
Homosexuality: Not gay here but could care less what people do in their bedrooms. Could care less if two guys wanna hold hands at a ball game and, yes, I think that gays should have teh same civil rights as hetero married couples. Why do you care what other people do? Are you that insecure?
Abortion: I would like to see less abortions in the US but perhaps if the idiotic religious right would stop this "abstinence only" nonsense we could educate people better about sex and we would have fewer unwanted pregnancies. The worst thing in the world would be for abortion to be illegal again, it would be devastating to our economy, crime rates etc.
Rape: As an atheist, I think that rape is wrong, unless of course you are a Catholic Priest.
Murder: Again, in general murder should be avoided unless you are killing someone who worships a different imaginary friend then you do.
Good points though.
if atheism isnt evil why does it try to normalize homosexuality abortion rape murder and all those other things there are no morals with it and thus america gets destroyed
Atheism doesn't address any of the topics you mentioned. All it does address is a lack of belief in deities.
You f***ing jerk-off.
If Christianity isn't evil why doesn't it fucking have any grasp over simple grammer and punctuaion!
If the very structure of you "argument" makes you look like a retard I refuse to take seriously anyhting you have to say.
Most religions I know have tried to normalise rape, murder, abortion and homosexuality some time in their history(with different methods and different results, I think). Concerning rape and murder, look at Bush and Iraq. And look at death penalty or arranged marriages, for that matter.
"if atheism isnt evil why does it try to normalize homosexuality abortion rape murder and all those other things there are no morals with it and thus america gets destroyed "
From the quotes I've seen here, it's you fundies (Christians, Muslims, and otherwise) who keep spouting the rape- and murder-apologist quotes from the various holy books.
We atheists keep commenting on how completely fucked up you are.
Normalizing rape.
Would it be normalizing rape if the victim of the rape were forced to marry her rapist?
Then it seems ike the bible does a lot to normalize rape, as this is the fate of an unmarried woman that gets raped.
Although her fate may be better than the fate of a woman who is raped in acity, as she shall, according to biblical laws, be stoned alongside her rapist. See Deuteronomy 22:22-29
Atheism as a concept doesn't do any of those things. Some atheists might do them but that doesn't mean that atheism is inherently evil or that all atheists have no morals.
As far as homosexuality goes, people are trying to "normalize" it because IT IS NORMAL! It doesn't hurt anyone, so stop calling it "evil."
Atheists believe that there is no god.
The rest is personal.
Personally, I'm against rape and murder, I support the death penalty, I don't want to destroy America, it's doing a fine job of that itself, and I think homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals.
wtf?
There are loads of homophobic atheists (shame, but there you have it), and I'm sure that there are loads of atheists who oppose abortion. What fundies don't seem to get into their heads is that we're not one big homogeneous group, but that in fact the only thing we have in common is our disbelief in god/s.
As to legalising (or "normalising") rape and murder:
a) [citation needed] and
b) your lot is way ahead of the rest there.
Rape? Murder?
I am an athiest. I know other athiests. One of my friends (who is an athiest) was raped. My athiest friends and I DID NOT FIND THIS NORMAL! SHE DID NOT FIND THIS NORMAL! HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE DONE?! LIKE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE, WE DON'T NOT LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE WE LOVE OR KNOW OR EVEN DON'T KNOW GOING THROUGH THAT KIND OF THING!
At least this is spelled correctly.
The punctuation and lack of capitalization makes me cringe, as does the sentiment.
Europe's got secular nations in it. They're still standing.
"it" doesn't."it" never promoted or avocated for any of these
homosexuality
A state of sexual preference. Not unusual as even a 2000 year old book and many other ancient documents speak of it. Not the norm but present in nature and mankind
abortion
Not the norm but practiced for a long time, specially when your daddy, the parish priest get's you pregnant. Don't even pretend this isn't on record for every religion
rape
Your God's fine with this. In fact if you're obsessed with a girl who can't stand you, rape her, now she's your wife. That's how it works in all Abrahamic religions
murder
Cain killed abel, that only four people on the planet before one kills another. Your God's really bad at building people
I think the ones trying to normalize rape are misogynistic rape apologists who demand women to be subservient and claim sex is something they have a right to.
I think the ones trying to normalize murder are the ones who adamantly support wars at the drop of a hat, adamantly support the death penalty for any serious crime, and have little concern at all for the tragic states of the most poor and disadvantaged.
I think the ones that have no morals are the ones who think that the above infractions are somehow irrelevant, but normalizing homosexuality and permitting abortion are absolutely unforgivable.
Soooo....fuck off.
Edit: Oh, a Poe. Oh well, my rage then serves effectively as a response to the opinions parodied. All is well!
From someone who calls himself the "poooothunter", at Gamefaqs. Ok, you've sold me. Really, though, homosexuality is normal, abortion, while I agree isn't the best choice, is sometimes necessary, and you fundies are more for murder than any liberal or atheist. It's fundy xtians in the US that has a complete lack of morals, while using an outdated book of fairy tales to justify their evil and vile practices.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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