Christ's Servant, you seem to be saying that we need to let the secular government let these people have their rights. But see, God never designed for there to be a secular government. THe government is supposed to be under the authority of God, and therefore what God says should go. And because God says that sodomy is wrong, the government should not allow it to happen
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Man, people don't get the whole "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, but render unto God what is God's" business, do they?
Doesn't Bush believe that he was personally appointed by gawd?
I'm not sure Dumbya directly believes that, though there are definitely some from the Christian right who believe that.
He has said that he thinks God wanted him to fight the Iraq War, but that's not quite the same thing.
Mr Smith
(1) Homosexuality is an "icky" sin most fundies do not feel tempted by, unlike divorce, gluttony, ignoring the poor, etc.
(2) Same-sex partnerships threatens their conception of family. The husband is head of the household; the wife is the willing help meet. Fundies fear social breakdown without proper, Godly family structures.
(3) Traditionally, sodomy has been tied to punishments of God. Sodom was destroyed. According to a Christian folk tale, all sodomites died when Jesus was born. Emperor Justinian of Byzantium listed earthquakes, plagues, and famines as reasons for his anti-sodomy laws.
Government was designed by man.
In the US at least, we have this non-establishment clause in the Constitution that gives us separation of church & state.
You're in Australia however, so keep in mind that your bible also mentions keeping the two separate.
You fail on all levels.
Wrong government, you need to move to Iran, it fits your beliefs to a "T"(well except for the fact they are Muslim fundies, but you should adapt quickly since you share political agendas). Alas(for you)if you read the Constitution you will discover that the US has never been built on that concept of belonging to God.PS Sir Thomas Moore(a strict Catholic) suggested that all government was actually the work of the devil, and would be unnecessary if all men behaved as God wished! His government chopped his head off!
THe government is supposed to be under the authority of God, and therefore what God says should go.
If God is omnipotent, then the government is under the authority of God. What Katyanne means is it should be under the authority of what fundie Baptists in Fuckwater, NC say is the authority of God.
You know what's unbelievable sad? In a thread on that forum, Katy Anne claims to have been molested/raped as a child - do you know what she did? She asked Randy if it was "her fault".
She believes that if she were wearing something "immodest" as an 8 year girl, that if some fat, misogynistic rape apologist piece of shit said so, that she would be "at fault" for her own abuse.
When I read her posts in that thread, I almost started crying. I feel immensely sorry for this girl, and I hope that one day, she sees the real God, and the real Jesus, and that she won't feel guilty anymore.
About this whole "God's Word" thing - it's jusr sad; the KJV of the Bible isn't the most accurate translation, and many (more accurate) translations have come after it. These people ignore the fact that it was written by men, whom may have been divinely inspied, but did add a lot of their prejudices into the Bible.
Secular government exists, it´s the only government your country has known so far and, moreover, you benefit from it. And by the way, if God says that eating lobster is wrong, New England factories would have never existed.
I'm surprised nobody else brought it up yet, but, which God exactly?
(Odin, Zeus, Shiva, Osiris, Ra, Toutatis, Ganesh, Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, FSM... ad absurdum)
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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