The pedophiles are THRILLED at the PROGRESS that the gay and lesbian and especially now the Transgendered people have made for themselves. On zero scientific basis they have convinced the world that they were born this way thus requiring rights (above that of all others and religion and such) and more.
Guess what liberal progressives...you have spawned EXACTLY the arguments pedophiles now intend to use...after all, they were “born this way!”
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Ice-Flyer: "Guess what liberal progressives...you have spawned EXACTLY the arguments pedophiles now intend to use...after all, they were “born this way!”"
A Liberal Progressive: "There's still one crucial difference between homosexuality and pedophilia, which makes the latter unacceptable EVEN IF they too were 'born that way'. Homosexual urges can be lived out between *consenting adults* with nobody getting hurt! Living out pedophile urges, however, would inevitably mean to commit child sexual abuse, hurting children. So even if homosexuality becomes as accepted as heterosexuality, pedophile activities will remain wrong!"
Ice-Flyer: "GRRR! ARRRGH! That liberal, sin-excusing "consenting adults" crap again! HOW can we get it into your numb heads that same-gender adult sex and child sexual abuse are both SEXUAL ACTS THAT GOD DOESN'T ALLOW! Meaning in God's eyes, they're no different!!"
THEY might be born that way, but the children aren't. Gays and lesbians are attracted to other consenting adult gays and lesbians. If pedophiles want to have sex with other adult pedophiles, go right ahead, I'd say.
Transgender is about identity, not sexuality, so it's kinda stupid saying "especially transgendered people".
Isn't there some scientific basis to how the brain "lights up" for certain stimuli?
"Born this way" is just a response to those people who think homosexuality is a choice.
Besides, informed consent. The Velcro to the slippery slope.
They can use that argument all they want, but they'll get nowhere, because child molestation is still and always will be a crime. Pedophilia itself shouldn't be a crime, but the minute the pedophile acts on their sexuality (child molestation), they should and will be subject to the full penalty of the law.
Blah blah blah LGBTs! Blah blah blah PEDOPHILES!
This is the song that doesn't end
Yes it goes on and on my friend
Some people started singing it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because...
"The pedophiles are THRILLED at the PROGRESS that"
...the support Josh Buggar is getting from his [I]own[/I] kind. [/KiddyDiddlingCondoner4God]
Meanwhile, Informed Consent.
Guess what, right-wing Fundamental ist Christains... you are reaping the P.R. whirlwind, nay a Perfect Storm, spawning EXACTLY what the liberal progressive Democrats intend to use... after all, Josh Buggar & co. were "born this way!".
Someday, all Democrat administrations will be made this way. [/Old Seiko advert slogan]
What is it with fundies and not understanding the concept of informed consent?
Yes, pedophiles probably are "born that way" but informed consent always trumps biology. Consenting adults having sex with each other harms no one. An adult having sex with a child alway harms the child. Understand now?
Whether or not paedophiles are "born that way", a child cannot give informed consent and thus sexual contact with a child will always be a crime. Gay, trnasgender, lesbian, bisexual etc do not equal paedo.
The real issue is informed consent not whether someone is born that way.
And besides that there is ample evidence that being molested as a child can increase the odds of someone choosing to molest children in adulthood. So then they are NOT born that way.
He's kind of right. I already encountered "Not-a-pedophile-but..."-people who used "being born this way" and "once there were the same prejudices about gays" as arguments.
Ice-Flyer gives the impression to be not worried about the children but angry about the gays, though.
The pedophiles are THRILLED at the PROGRESS that the gay and lesbian and especially now the Transgendered people have made for themselves.
I wouldn't know; I'm not in touch with pedophiles. How do you know?
Guess what liberal progressives...you have spawned EXACTLY the arguments pedophiles now intend to use...after all, they were “born this way!”
age! of! consent! you stupid fuck! GODDAMNIT!!
*storms off ranting angrily*
@arp:
Agreed to an extent. Through research it has been confirmed that sexuality and gender identity is beyond a person's control, as the homosexuals and transgendered knew, which counteracts the constant claims over it being a lifestyle choice from the bigots. Whilst it shouldn't be used as a definitive point when arguing for homosexuality to be accepted, it is an acceptable position, in my eyes, to argue for this whenever a fundie turns their nose up at the suggestion that it is natural, innate, and an in-born trait. Of course, during such a debate, it may be needed to distinguish the difference between arguing for the reasons why people are homosexual and the morality of it, since the homophobes struggle with such (because if they accept it's innate and natural they have no reasonable standing to oppose it, of course).
"on zero scientific basis"
You mean all that science that proves sexuality is inborn? Oh, that's right, Freepers think that "science" is "asserted lies made up on the spot" and that anything based on empirical evidence, and thus verifiable, is fake.
I just need a Bizarro World translation guide, apparently...
“The pedophiles are THRILLED at the PROGRESS that the gay and lesbian and especially now the Transgendered people have made for themselves.”
Yes, they are.
Of course, they’ve always been pretty delusional.
But so are the most rabidly pedophobics.
"On zero scientific basis they have convinced the world that they were born this way thus requiring rights”
No, sweetie, they don’t REQUIRE rights, the gays and transgendered are saying that there’s no secular basis to discriminate against them. And all you can do is bring up your religious hatred.
"(above that of all others and religion and such)”
Just like that.
"and more.”
Women living as women want to be treated as women and you’re poorly equipped to be the ones to decide who is and isn’t a women.
“Guess what liberal progressives...you have spawned EXACTLY the arguments pedophiles now intend to use...after all, they were “born this way!””
Doesn’t matter a fuck, as what they want is NOT limited to ‘consenting adults.’ That’s what makes it different and that’s why the ‘born this way’ argument fails.
Confused?
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