[Re: Should a Christian Wife Submit to Her Husband's Sexual Sadism?]
This a tough one. Lets say Mark and Carina are on a church outing. Carina is is behaving very badly so Mark makes some excuse to return home promising they will be back. Once home mark raises her skirt and administers biblical correction he leaves her bent over to think over her behavior. All of a sudden he is overwhelmed by her beauty and takes her roughly with no heed to her cries of pain.
I don’t think that’s a sexual sadist.
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Alice
A possible G.I.R.L.?
No, of course she shouldn't! Next question, please.
That sounds like the textbook description of Sexual Sadism, girly-G.I.R.L.
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Let's say Ted sees Alice walking down the street and approaches her with a fake cast on his arm. Asks for some help carrying books, then batters her with the cast and throws her half-conscious into his VW Beetle to be dragged away to a remote area where she can be raped and murdered, as many others were before her.
I don't think that's a serial killer.
Jesus...
"Should a Christian Wife Submit to Her Husband's Sexual Sadism?"
Obviously, the answer is no. Him being her husband, or boyfriend, or father, or biss, or pastor, changes nothing. No.
But 'Alice' not only won't say no, they want to play with the definition of eexual sadism.
And not even providing a definition, just excusing an example.
How about "Should a Wife Submit to Her Husband Sexually?"
No, not if it is something she does not want to do. Sadism, masochism, vanilla, kissing in public... wife doesn't mean thrall.
Once home mark raises her skirt and administers biblical correction he leaves her bent over to think over her behavior. All of a sudden he is overwhelmed by her beauty and takes her roughly with no heed to her cries of pain.
Wait a minute. Wasn't that the video with the pizza delivery guy? Or was it the one with the pool cleaner, or the tv repair man?
After a while it gets hard to keep all the cheap internet pr0n sorted out.
What if Mark is behaving badly?
And Carina knows Krav Maga...?!
I'd be overwhelmed by her beauty: enhanced by strength .
Well, it depends on what degree of sadism we're talking about. If Carina consents and everyone knows their limits, sure, but they aren't being good Christians by doing so. If Carina doesn't consent this is really just a case of spousal rape and abuse, so no (and the sects that approve of it should be buried alive). And that's not getting into the upper echelons of sadistic pathology, the likes of the Toybox Killer and other wonderful people.
For fuck's sake, people, just admit you're kinky! Just admit that this scenario is what gets you off, it's not a moral imperative, it's just a spanking-and-ravishment scene that makes you wet! That's actually pretty normal!
STOP MAKING MY FETISHES ALL CREEPY, YOU ASSHOLES
More important than the question of whether or not Carina should submit to his sexual sadism, is whether Mark should insist if she does not. Simply put, no he shouldn't.
This is just like all other sex, though it's important to get into more detail because of it's nature. Lay out the ground rules first. Number one is not, as one might think, establish the limits of what's okay and what's not, but to establish a safe word to stop the session, because she may not handle as much as she thinks so well. Then talk about what both want to try, and what both agree to. If either party says no, the answer is no, period.
Seriously, if you actually talk to people who are part of organized BDSM clubs and communities, they are much more strict about how consent works than conservative Christians are, because no genuinely does mean no. The only "exception" is rape and control fantasies, and that is the reason for the safe word. That word means stop, and it is to be taken as such, and anyone in such a community who disobeys that will find themselves kicked out immediately.
takes her roughly with no heed to her cries of pain .
I don’t think that’s a sexual sadist.
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