Since atheists like to bitch so much about theists, why don't you guys
start buying land where you can create your atheist paradise on earth?
I suspect it would be a Communist paradise.
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Heh. Since fundamental Christians like to bitch so much about evolutionists, atheists, heathens, pagans, agnostics, abortionists, and everyone else who doesn't agree with you, why don't you start buying land where you can create your Christian paradise on earth? I'm sure it will be a paragon of moderation and tolerance.
You know, that's actually not such a bad idea. Naturally, we would let in the theists who weren't busy trying to oppress and/or kill everyone else.
I doubt it would be a communist system, though. Maybe a socialist one.
Hadanelith, you've pretty much nailed it. There's no room left. If only we could colonise a couple of planets...
Besides, asking people you disagree with to leave is not exactly a shining beacon of civilised, democratic behaviour.
Yeah, I'm sick of having those bitching atheists knocking on my door, trying to force their beliefs on me. And then there's that guy who stands in the High Street on Saturday afternoons waving a copy of 'The Origin of Species' and bitching about how none of us are going to Hell because it doesn't exist. And don't get me started on those street-corner atheists collecting to send missionaries to bitch to people in benighted countries where they've never heard of atheism......
what good would it do? atheistvania wouldn't even exist for minutes before it was stampeded by missionaries.
also i sense a serious absence of understanding of communism. too many people think the former soviet union or china are the full extent of communism... that really irks me.
(besides, based on biblical texts wouldn't jesus have been pretty keen on communism?)
@Brain'
Besides, asking people you disagree with to leave is not exactly a shining beacon of civilised, democratic behaviour.
In the U.S., at least, "Love it or leave it" has been a [del]bane[/del] staple of public debate at least since 9/11.
ETA: Gaah! Strikethrough no exist here?!
Since atheists like to bitch so much about theists
I don't mind most theists. You're just the exception.
I suspect it would be a Communist paradise.
Not likely. There's the issue that just about everyone understands that communism on a large scale is unworkable, given human nature. If Marxist communism (which shares a name with Soviet-style communism and not much else) actually worked the way Marx thought it would, it probably *would* be a paradise. Trouble is that, human nature being what it is, Marxism falls apart almost immediately, either by lack of production or by turning totalitarian to prevent lack of production.
(besides, based on biblical texts wouldn't jesus have been pretty keen on communism?)
His followers certainly were - read Acts.
If any unoccupied, habitable land existed, I'm sure we'd do that.
Also, atheism does not equal Communism. Furthermore, most atheists don't really have problems with theists. They don't like fundie assholes. Lastly, not everyone who dislikes fundies is an atheist.
He didn't use his terms well.. a paradise, by definition, would be just that: a paradise!
So, yea, as a paradise, a communist paradise would have to be the best thing ever... as any paradise would have to be!
A place without fundies, hmmm... Sounds fucking GREAT to me!! I think I'll buy a gigantic island and invite all the intelligent folk (no, not you christians) to live there. No war, insanity, stupidity, and best of all, no FUNDIES! Excellent idea, Tuco, but fundie fucks like YOU would set it on fire.
I've met very few communist atheists. And I like capitolism. Besides, if I were to create a paradise basing it on atheism would be setting a short goal. There's more to paradise than a position on God. I can't get along with most of my fellow atheists anyway.
I don't know. Who's propaganda did you accept without question? Besides the bible. I mean, you know, what ass is feeding you - a human toilet it seems - this crap?
Besides that, I like Canada which has many, many religions. And which people from the USA run to or wish they could run to after every major human rights violation and some minor ones as it's part of this huge pattern and the future looks grim.
I just want the rest of you people to know that I absolutely love this site and enjoy very much being among intelligent human beings. I spent a lot of time as a troll on christian sites (I love being provocative!) just listening to their incoherent babble and then make fun of them endlessly. But I discovered it always falls on deaf ears and the most satisfaction I get is eternal damnation. Tdevil was my alias in my crusades thru christian forums, but I feel quite at home with you people now. I have been on this site for a couple of days now, and I already consider you people family. Fundies are everywhere, damn it!
Since theists like to bitch so much about Atheists, why don't you guys
start buying land where you can create your theist paradise on earth?
Oh, wait, you already did. It was called the dark ages.
Tuco also posts on soc.men, where he shows that he is also a male chauvinist and misogynist. He'd like to turn the clock back to 1919, before women had the vote in the U.S.
However, I think he's just a reactionary kook, not a particularly fundamentalist one.
Because there's no need to. Capitalism is just one economic system like many others. Feudalism and the slave economy each lasted far longer than capitalism has so far.
We will bury you, remember that.
@EJ
They've tried, repeatedly, it always wars with itself, it always creates dictatorships and warlord states. Smart Christian know this is the best system they've even existing in. The laws protect their religion and the excesses it would enact if not for those laws. Freedom has NEVER been a product of Christianity.
You're living in our world. And stop if with this idea communism ever banned Christianity or they're opposites, it controlled its totalitarian agendas. Why do you think Putins working with the Russian orthodox church? Do you idiots think they magically reappeared a few years ago? They've always been part of the system
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