Yes.....'At one time people would have found the idea of a spherical Earth completely illogical.'......that's it...Period! Now...don't immediately say 'it is not illogical' as though logic is something Absolute out there that decides all reality. Nothing of that sort.
Logic is not absolute. It is relative and connected to our current understanding.
Parallel Universes today seem perfectly logical merely because of scientific authority. We just nod along and get used to certain concepts.
Similarly, tomorrow we could accept and get used to the idea of an After-Life or Spiritual Worlds or Intelligent Creation and so on....and that would be perfectly logical. And this point is what you don't seem willing to grasp.
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"Logic is not absolute. It is relative and connected to our current understanding."
Our understanding is the view outside the spacecraft window.
Show me a window we can look out and see the woo world. A real window, not one of your woo windows.
Now...don't immediately say 'it is not illogical' as though logic is something Absolute out there that decides all reality. Nothing of that sort.
That's, uh, pretty much the definition of logic, but never mind.
Computer: 'What is Kiri-Kin-Tha's first law of Metaphysics?'
Spock (Leonard Nimoy): 'Nothing unreal exists.'
Computer: 'Correct. '
-"Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"
'the idea of an After-Life', you say? Been there, done that for Spock. Also, Zachary Quinto's. NEXT!
No, I don't. We have honed our sense of what is logical by knowing more about our physical world than we did in the past. We have progressed. Well, SOME of us have progressed. And we are not going to go backward in our knowledge.. Well, SOME of us....
Learned people have known the Earth was round-ish for millennia; it's the only way to explain how the horizon works, especially on the ocean but also on land. Whether they thought it was actually completely spherical or not was more of a curiosity than a useful topic of discussion.
@Anon-e-moose : Now I know Star Trek is secretly a dystopia, they don't even have Unreal Tournament.
Also, recall that Spock had some kind of after-death experience that he couldn't adequately describe to McCoy. (Or he was pulling Bones's leg, but I mean... Vulcan.)
@Jamaican Castle
It`s his opinion, Moose has been known to court ID`s products just a little bit too much as of late. His attitude seems to reek of bullet sponges, opulent health meters and the caring hand of your gaming overseers taking away your gun each time you have to perform anything with double or boost in the title. For all it`s flaire and makeup new Doom will never replace me the good instagibs of old.
Logic IS, in fact, absolute, kind of like math.
I think the word you're looking for is "reasonable", though I get the feeling that 'reason' isn't in your vocabulary.
Similarly, tomorrow we could accept and get used to the idea of an After-Life or Spiritual Worlds or Intelligent Creation and so on....and that would be perfectly logical.
Logical, if, and only if, someone provides evidence that those ideas are true.
Is this even supposed to make sense? 'Cause that's kinda what logic is, being absolute and all.
Half expecting a picture of a face palming Vulcan to show up...
Actually the existence of parallel universes is not "accepted as perfectly logical". It's merely a proposed possibility. It will only become a hard logical conclusion come the day we either break into one (effectively eliminating the argument over the matter outright) or find that the preponderance of evidence points to their existence with few or no known alternatives. Furthermore, logic is merely an approach to thinking. In the case of parallel universes, logic currently only comes in when you ask "if so then why & how" and explore the hypothetical. The same approach we take to your creationist woo, actually, and guess what: the logic doesn't follow . In fact it almost immediately veers off at a 90 degree angle for a bit before doing a series of loop-de-loops and tying itself into a knot so tangled that it would bring a tear to the eye of even the most hardened Celt.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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