The gospels aren't good evidence of Jesus' life and death? Saying it doesn't make it so. Prove ithat the gospel accounts aren't historically reliable..
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Before they can even be historically reliable they would first have to be internally consistent. For example, on the first Easter morning, the visitors to the tomb were greeted by which of the following:
1. A young man (Mark 16:5)
2. No, no, it was no man, it was an angel (Matthew 28:2-5)
3. You're both wrong, it was two men (Luke 24:4)
4. Damn it, there was nobody there (John 20:1-2)
(credit to ebon musings)
"Prove ithat the gospel accounts aren't historically reliable.. "
Notwithstanding the massive logic FAIL, the so-called 'gospels' don't even agree with each other.
@Meph
Excellent way of looking at it, and back then they didn't even have Google to do their "research" for them. Maybe mrsnacks would like to tackle one single event from 1970 (say, the death of Charles de Gaulle) and provide us with an accurate description thereof, without resorting to search engines.
"But I wasn't there," or "I wasn't even born then" would be amongst the most likely responses.
Which is exactly true of the gospel writers, isn't ir?
The synoptic gospels state that Jesus dies after the beginning of Passover (the last supper was a Passover sedar). The gospel of John says that Jesus died the day before the sedar was to be held. Now I know there are pages and pages of apologetics to quell the cognitive dissonance that come with the other contradictions between the gospels, but this one is absolutely irreconcilable: either John or the other gospels are wrong in recounting the day of Jesus' death.
“Prove ithat the gospel accounts aren't historically reliable..”
They’re anonymous. Ask any historian how much credibility they put into anonymous accounts.
They’re written well after the fact, so could not have been eye witnesses. At best an oral tradition that was handed down, so we’ll never know what details were added after the fact.
Let me demonstrate. The oldest image we have of a Roman Cross used for Crucifixion is T shaped. It’s graffitti. It’s anonymous, and it was drawn between 1st and 3rd century CE.
So, we might think all the paintings and jewelry and vampire movies are horribly wrong, or we might dismiss it as testimony because we don’t know who drew it, or exactly when, or why. Or if the design of the cross changed after Jesus was (allegedly) nailed up there. So, an interesting drawing, but not historically reliable to start criticizing all the art.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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