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Is There Definitive 100% Set In Stone Proof Of God? No, And That Is The Proof
I have just realized that we theists are looking at this all wrong.

There is no such thing as "Proof of God" where one can use an example and say, "That Proves God!"

The proof for God lies in the fact there is no proof of God. Atheists always like to ask theists, "Where's the evidence for God?" (As if the atheists are pretending like a theist out there will challenge them with something new that hasn't ever been thought of over the past thousands of years and say "Wow, you're right! God exists!".)

We have been going about it all wrong. God never gives out proof of his existence. But, since God DOES NOT give out "stone cold proof" this is PROOF of God because the FACT that God doesn't provide evidence is EXACTLY what we would expect from a God that does not provide evidence!

Atheists asking, "Where is the proof/evidence of God?" have got it completely backwards. There isn't supposed to be any evidence for God because God doesn't provide any evidence. And if God exists out there, and chooses not to provide evidence for his existence, then guess what atheists?

Having no proof of God's existence is proof of God's existence.

I hope I just boggled all of your minds with a brand new argument never before heard over the past thousands of years.

Ask yourself this simple question, "If the Christian God is real, and He isn't willing to provide us with evidence, what would we expect to see?"

The answer is, "Exactly what we see right now."

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old comment by Philbert McAdamia

Isn't this the same "proof" they use for Jesus physically rising up to heaven - because there is no body, it must be true. I guess we know now where Jimmy Hoffa went.

@ Wehpudicabok
"Well, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing.

My mom and dad fought every night for 24 years, yelling and screaming long into the night, about anything and nothing at all. One time he started in on her and she said, "Oh you just want to argue, You'd claim that white is black and black is white, just to make yourself sound important." He said, "No, I wouldn't", and proceeded to do just that. If he was here, now, he could go around and around with Self-Abuse, here, until somebody wound up throwing spaghetti on the wall.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"Atheists asking, "Where is the proof/evidence of God?" have got it completely backwards. There isn't supposed to be any evidence for God because God doesn't provide any evidence. And if God exists out there, and chooses not to provide evidence for his existence, then guess what atheists?

Having no proof of God's existence is proof of God's existence.

I hope I just boggled all of your minds with a brand new argument never before heard over the past thousands of years."

Not really...:

PROTIP: A rainbow doesn't actually physically exist, but at least it can be seen.

So why can't your 'God' simply appear as either a cute girl or even Morgan Freeman, if he's as 'Omnipotent' as you lot claim? But then, if he himself limits his 'Omnipotence', then he himself proves that he's not 'Omnipotent', thus he admits - as do you by admission - he's not God, therefore he contradicts himself, ergo he doesn't exist. Q.E. and D., bitch.

@Arts_Myth

"Ask yourself this simple question, "If elephants painted their toenails red so that they could hide in cherry trees, and they were very good at this camouflage, what would we expect to see?"

The answer is, "Exactly what we see right now."

Ergo, there are elephants in cherry trees precisely because we can't see them!"

And as they have their Cloaking Devices activated, therefore Yautja ('Predators') exist!

Look up into the night sky, Self-Mutilation. Because we can't see them - even though they have their Cloaking Devices engaged...:

...Romulan Valdore-class Warbirds actually exist! [/Russell's Teapot]

This is a fun game! [/hyper-sarcasm]

"There is no evidence for the existence of divine beings, therefore God. [...] I hope I just boggled all of your minds with a brand new argument never before heard over the past thousands of years."

Well, it's just an affirmation that you accept blind faith and are still trying to convince yourself that the imaginary being is real. After-all, like you've admitted, that's what faith has been about since humans could imagine beings. A "proof by lack of evidence" logical fallacy will not convince those who don't believe and that's fine, they're not really expecting that you'll suddenly find convincing evidence that'll transform their lives.

Is it healthy for you? Are you happy, or does it allow an exploitative cult to take advantage of you? Is a creator that's hiding its existence from you deceptive, or simply unlikely to exist? Is it worthy caring about and making sacrifices for? How about the fact that ethics have no divine origin, since as you admit, the deity could not influence or intervene in the world anyway? And humans are capable of knowledge, morality and ethics higher than those of ancient humans today. To a point where it's easy to recognize that if the mythology of the Torah was true, humans would have been deceived again and again by an anthropomorphic jealous asshole in the sky playing chess with them... And we know that it's one among many deities humans invented.