The thing is... babies aren't innocent. They are selfish and self centered, both of which are sinful attitudes.
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Here's the great irony of this; if Babies are NOT innocent, then why is Abortion wrong? Is not the wages of sin death, and thus, is the child simply not getting what his/her sin mandates he/she gets?
Surely, they are selfish and self-centered, like any creature who is unable to live by itself and hasn't fully develop their cognitive skills. And anyway, is abortion then wrong, according to your logic?. If they lack free will, you know, no sin.
Children ARE innocent in that their brains aren't fully developed until around 18 years old. They aren't fully capable of making fully informed "bad" choices. This is why we don't execute them, this is why they can't drink, this is why they cannot consent to sex.
Babies and kids ARE indeed innocent.
Or maybe they're just human, like the rest of us, and without that selfishness, we would never survive. If a baby doesn't cry when it needs something, it probably won't get it.
Of course they are. They can't help it . Their brains haven't developed enough to realize that the world doesn't revolve around them. And clearly, neither has yours.
Shit, man, I don't like babies either, but that doesn't mean I think they're sinful, selfish little beasts.
OMFG. I hope this bitch does not have any children.
Basic baby lesson for fucking dummies: Babies are not selfish. They have needs (eating, affection, warmth, cleanliness, among others) that they cannot attend to on their own. Babies also can't talk yet, so they must cry.
Combine these facts together, and you can see that infants cry to let others know when they're in real need! Selfishness doesn't figure into it, unless one is batshit insane enough to think an adult is "selfish" for feeling hunger or needing to stay warm.
Dumbass. Never unleash your horridness on real babies, please.
Wanted to edit my comment but it won't let me.
I just wanted to add, I am surprised (and a little disappointed- not that it matters) at the number of people here who agree that infants are "selfish". I fail to see what is selfish about having basic biological needs that one cannot take care of onesself.
Hrmm... if an adult breaks his arms and needs someone to assist him in eating, he would be selfish to even ask? That's a fucking absurd idea. Crying is a baby's way of "asking" for help- they cannot ask politely and then wait til mommy and daddy aren't busy. Come on now >:(
Yeah, fucking babies - there ought to be a law against them - especially the gay babies, the drug pusher babies, the crack whore babies, prostitute babies - sin, sin, sin, sin, sin!
Praise the Lord!
Yes, how dare they be completely and totally dependent on another being for support and survival. And their Mom's...sheesh, cut the umbilical cord already, he's 3 months old.
I hate to single word label anyone, but you, my dear, call for this. Bitch.
So, if a one-year-old suddenly dies from SIDS, this would mean he died in his sins and is now in hell, right? Just how fucking demented is this bint?
and they smell too! damn babies, how dare they think they are better than us!
"my brains not developed enough to understand that I'm not the center of the universe...I can't change or feed myself...wahh wahh wahh"
stupid babys go home and cry to mommy!
"They are selfish and self centered, both of which are sinful attitudes."
This is posted on a board which has a single purpose; to bolster the members' smug assurance that any day now they will be "Raptured," after they can spend eternity laughing at all the doubters who are writhing in hell. This crowd also fiercely (and wrongly) denies that Jesus expects them to give aid to the sick and poor. They defend this attitude with the old "We are saved by faith, not works" line, ignoring several bible passages which emphasize the need for love and charity.
Frankly, they are not in a position to be throwing stones.
Gotta love Christian approved thought-crime! Acting selfishly is tantamount to murder because there is no nuance before God! And thinking about something is equivalent to actually doing it (bad things only, though!) because there is no nuance before God! So anyone who has a single impure thought is akin to a mass murderer, because God loves to punish fucking everyone and doesn't care what they've done to deserve it. But, most of all, He gets a real stiffy when he can get sycophants to call this "justice"! Oh, what a laugh!
Whoa there lady! I'm not too comfy around babies myself, but this is just ridiculous. Let's pretend you lack the ability to speak, and the ability to write/type. How else, exactly, are you going to let people around you know that you need something?
Gee, that's a shame. I see a baby being "selfish and self-centered" and think, "Well, that's what babies do. They'll learn to behave better when they're older." Fundies think, " OH NOES THIS CHILD IS OF TEH DEBIL!!11!!!1!!!1!!"
What is wrong with these people?
Confused?
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