Have you ever personally had a Miracle? I have had dozens and dozens, from tooth aches, headaches, aches and pains, witchcraft attacks, and cysts disappearing immediately after praying. I also have had dozens and dozens of headaches that did not go away. No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray. Sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. That really is God's business.
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Yes, praying sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, therefore God exists and there is no conceivable way that random chance could play any part in it. God is just randomly picking and choosing who is in pain and when for reasons that we can't understand. Let's worship this douchebag.
"Have you ever personally had a Miracle?"
No, not even a capitalized Miracle.
"I have had dozens and dozens, from tooth aches, headaches, aches and pains, witchcraft attacks, and cysts disappearing immediately after praying."
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Witchcraft is not real. None of the other experiences can be shown to be a miracle either. Every credible test of prayer shows that prayer fails at a rate at least equal to doing nothing.
"I also have had dozens and dozens of headaches that did not go away. No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray."
Well, there you go, solid proof that God either performs miracles or he does not.
"Sometimes we do and sometimes we don't."
So why pray?
"That really is God's business."
Even if God actually exists, if God is omniscient and the outcome of your prayer is God's business, what's the point of praying? It may be that your headaches may be clouding your thinking.
Praise the Lord that God healed your toothache, but not the thousands of people that die from cancer every year. And those pesky witchcraft attacks? Well, that's nothing some good old fashion snake handling won't cure!
Sounds like a potent combination of wishful thinking, delusion and a placebo effect to me. Headaches can go away on their own, there's no need for god to intervene there. And Witchcraft is as much as fairy story as the Big Beard In The Sky.
"I also have had dozens and dozens of headaches that did not go away"
Wait, so you are having, right now, several dozen headaches at the same time? That is a miracle.
You're an idiot.
Witchcraft does not exist, there is no such thing as a miracle, and most of what you consider to be miraculous cures to minor ailments are due more to a placebo effect than to prayer.
Get some real medical help.
No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray.
(raises hand) I know!!!! I know!!!!
What are the symptoms of a "witchcraft attack", please?
Toothache ---> dentist.
Headache ---> Motrin works good.
"No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray."
You aren't praying correctly. You see, the Earth's aura, which is maternal and nurturing, provides the healing energies you need.
You must lie naked on the turf and perform slow meditative breathing. Exhale your dirty energy and inhale the pure clean healing energy.
You may fall asleep during the process, but that's a good thing.
Well, I've gotten rid of toothaches, headaches, aches and pains, cysts and ingrown toenails.
Going to the dentist seems to help most toothaches. Until I can get to the dentist, putting a used teabag on the affected tooth helps a lot.
Ibuprofin works wonders on most headaches and aches and pains. It also brings down fever. Atenelol helps prevent cluster headaches (aka The Devil Demon Headache From Hell) and if one is already coming on, a few whiffs of pure oxygen will usually stop it cold.
I've gotten rid of cysts by taking a sterilized razor blade and opening them up and draining them (works for boils, too) and I've even done my own self-surgery to remove ingrown toenails (though you have to be careful or you'll end up doing more damage than good, and you may end up in for-real surgery like I did).
Praying is fine, if that makes you feel better but don't be surprised if the answer is "take some ibuprofin" or "sterilize a razor blade and drain the damn thing"!
Note to Puck: lying naked on the turf really does make one feel better. Especially if one is lying naked on the turf with their boyfriend... :-)
"You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Joe Pesci. Two reasons; first of all,
I think he's a good actor. Ok. To me, that counts. Second; he looks like
a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. Doesn't
fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that
god was having trouble with. For years I asked god to do something about
my noisy neighbor with the barking dog. Joe Pesci straightened that
cock-sucker out with one visit."
[George Carlin]
I also have had dozens and dozens of headaches that did not go away. No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray. I know why: Your God either doesn't exist, or lied when he said prayers would have an effect.
Every serious, objective examination of prayer has concluded it to be ineffective. It does not work. Of course God may still be real, but apparently he frequently neglects his Prayer Inbox.
you have a pathetically small definition of "miracle".
To me a miracle is something that happens even though it could never happen naturally, like somebody's leg regrowing.
If you consider a headache going away a "miracle", then it's no wonder you've experienced so many "miracles".
hmm Prayer is a good stress reliever so and does put the mind at ease so that would reduce headaches.
still, better life through chemistry.
So praying to God is like a slot machine. You pull the arm, but never know if you're even gonna get anything.
Dunno about you, but I'd rather make my own luck, then put myself at the whims of a Chaos God.
I've had a Miracle Blade. Sure it was sharp, but the handle and the edge were too straight-lined for me. I want a bit of an angle between the handle and the cutting edge.
"No one knows why, but we don't always get healed when we pray. Sometimes we do and sometimes we don't"
Strangely enough, it's the exact same way when we don't pray. It's as if God doesn't care whether we pray or not.
Holy crap, this actually works!
I tossed a coin and prayed it would come down heads and God answered my prayers (50% of the time).
If God actually did answer people's prayers, what would happen if you prayed for him not to grant your prayers?
If he didn't grant it then you would have gotten what you prayed for, hence God has in fact granted your prayer. But if God has granted your prayer then he hasn't given you what you prayed for, so he actually didn't grant it.
Man, this beats lifting rocks as a test anyday. If God is all powerful, can he grant my prayer to not have my prayers granted?
Auto-suggestion. It's been programmed into Stan from childhood.
It's cheaper than aspirin, but lacks the quality control associated with proper pharmacology.
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