Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) got into a battle with Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA) Thursday during a House Committee on Energy and Commerce hearing for the healthcare bill.
While discussing the GOP’s new bill, Doyal asked what Shimkus could possibly have a problem with that is mandated in Obamacare. He rattled off some of the things Americans have said they like, kids being able to stay on their parents’ insurance until 26, not being kicked off for pre-existing conditions or stopping caps on benefits.
Shimkus replied that men shouldn’t have to pay for prenatal care.
“I’m just — I — is that not correct?” Shimkus stuttered. “Should they?”
Doyal seemed so dumbfounded he couldn’t find his words either. He reclaimed his time. “There’s no such thing as ala cart insurance, John,” he explained.
Shimkus said that was the thing he had a problem with. “That’s the point! That’s the point!” he exclaimed. “We want the consumer to be able to go to the insurance market and be able to negotiate on a plan that –”
“You tell me what insurance company will do that,” Doyle interrupted. “There isn’t a single insurance company in the world that does that, John.”
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The US is now a third world country, lacking in the most basic areas.
Health care is mess, with the insurance industry fleecing the customers.
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Politicians might lie but this one is a fucking doozy.
When you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, try to baffle them with your bull.
Oh, and who wants to bet that this guy is "pro life"?
some godsdamn republican might, hypothetically, want consumers to be able to go to some insurance market and haggle for their plans and coverages. but show me a consumer that wants to bother with that bullshit, and i'll show you an idle rich fuck with nothing to do in life.
i don't want to haggle over whether, or what kind of, healthcare i am to get. i want the healthcare i need, when i need it, without having to hold a legal or fiscal gun to some damn insurance broker's head first --- because when i actually need healthcare i'll not be in any damn shape or mood to do that shit. and i refuse to believe i'm even a tiny bit unusual in that respect.
first thing we do, we shoot all the lawyers, yes. insurance company executives go second through fourth, because they need shooting thrice each.
Shimkus said that was the thing he had a problem with. “That’s the point! That’s the point!” he exclaimed. “We want the consumer to be able to go to the insurance market and be able to negotiate on a plan that ”
Of course, trying to negotiate your own insurance plan generally starts with the assumption you have at least seven figures in the bank, so this is yet another sign that the Repubs aren't thinking of anyone who isn't already rich.
I was waiting for this to show up.
Don't wanna pay for anything baby related? Then women aren't paying for men's boner pills. Payback, she's a bitch.
...and now you know why - since abortion was legalised six years before Roe vs. Wade - every Free Vote in Parliament has gone against those who wanted to change the existing legislation.
My MP Karl Turner (Labour, Hull East) voted in that last Free Vote in the House of Commons: to keep the law as it is; as it has been since 1967. Labour could be seen as our equivalent of the Democrats. We, his constituents, know of his voting patterns. So why is it, that in the general election a couple of years ago, he was returned to Parliament with an increased majority, John Stinkus?
But then, if he was in that Committee, he would say to you:
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And as he was formerly a Barrister, he would've run rings around you: and not just legally.
We have the NHS. In Soviet Britain, health insurance has to negotiate with you .
There's your answer, Mike. Even BUPA is a flyspeck compared to what is effectively the biggest state-owned company on the planet.
After years of its incessant vituperation and hysteria, the right gets the opportunity to replace the program. How will they do that? They don't have the faintest forking idea.
They're the dog that caught the car. They have no idea what to do next, because their entire Obamacare fight hinged on the idea that no matter what, they wouldn't actually HAVE to come up with a workable plan. After all, no matter what, Obama would refuse to sign any order the Senate sent him relating to this, and they knew it. Seven years, and they still don't have a plan. The goal was never to have a plan; the goal was just to show token resistance. Just like everything else.
That's the massive disconnect economic conservatives have. They worship the "free market" but fail to recognize that with inequality of bargaining power being a thing, there is no such thing as a "free market".
It's the same thing that led to them dismantling any teeth the unions still had, arguing that they had "too much power". Now remind me again what the purpose of forming a union is? Anyone?
Confused?
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