f a 15 year old — can decide to have sex with a 16 year old — [h]ow come she cannot have sex with a 35 year old? Age discrimination by law?
Are you worried about manipulation of the tender 15 year old? I have a solution:
what about legalizing sex with underage adolescents, if they first undergo an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period? That should take care of this issue. This would guarantee safety for the 15 year old against being conned or manipulated. More safety that is offered to 21 year old tipsy Friday night party girls who may feel sorry for what they did yesterday
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you have no idea what age discrimination is, unless you want to abolish minimum age for voting, drinking, driving or serving in the army.
how about we don't change the laws just for your need to have sex with minors?
Have a 15 year old girl attend a one hour class on contract law. It does not make her able to understand contracts.
Have a 15 year old girl attend a one hour class on advanced physics. It does not give her the ability to discuss advanced physics or conduct scientific experiments.
Have a 15 year old girl (or boy, for that matter) attend a one hour counseling session on the intricacies of human relationships. Throw in a 2-day cooling off period while you're at it. It does not make them able to give informed consent. Why? Because they're 15 years old, you idiot.
Technically, a 16-year-old is committing statutory rape by having sex with a 15-year-old (assuming legal age of 16), unless it's in a state with a Romeo & Juliet exception. If they're both underage, then it's not considered a crime because they'd both be offender and victim.
If you can't understand the difference between a 16-year-old having sex with a 15-year-old and a 35-year-old man doing the same thing, then you're a stupid idiot. There's a huge difference between a year or two apart and being twice someone's age.
"they first undergo an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period? That should take care of this issue. This would guarantee safety for the 15 year old against being conned or manipulated."
Because the con man manipulating the 15 year old will comply with the required hour of counselling.
If you think your 'idea has any credibility whatsoever, just come to the UK and say the same on nationwide TV/radio/the press.
You being chased out of my country with the words 'Gary Glitter', Max Clifford' & 'Rolf Harris' burned into your memory would be the least of your problems.
...oh, and another couple of words: 'Informed Consent'. NEXT!
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Consideing: http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=116252&Page=1#1909450 , then the answers are 'No', 'Mobile Dialysis* & Medical Insurance* exist; ask the latter', and 'The British company Air Fuel Synthesis have hopefully patented, copyrighted, trademarked etc their new process up the wazoo, so that only THEY can make it, or - as per Scaramanga & his Solex-based solar generation system in that Bond film, AFS will offer franchises in the technology behind their invention'. And in that order.
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One is only a year older from the 15 year old, the other actually is old enough to be the parent of said 15 year old.
@Anon-e-moose
Would be interested to hear your followup here: fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=116252&Page=1#1909450
Sorry, I don't know how to code it for HTML properly... and after being awake for as long as I have been, I can't see myself wanting to look it up either, since I'm falling asleep as it is.
The brain is not fully developed until the mid-twenties. For some reason, we have decided adulthood begins before then, usually 18. Before then, people are legally children for a reason. Two teenagers being stupid together is developmentally inappropriate. An adult (male or FEMALE!) who would want a relationship with a child is either mentally deficient or manipulative. Judging from the rest of your post, in your case, I'm going to go with manipulative.
Not that you (hopefully) get any sex, but sexual impulses don't work like that especially for adolescents. That's part of the reason that sex-with-minor laws exist. I would comment about mental and emotional maturity as well but you of the very appropriate name clearly is not possessed of enough of either to understand.
Because a 15 year old is nowhere on the level of maturity or life experienced as a 35 year old.
They live with their parents, going to parties, studying and going to school. A 35 year old pays taxes, had several jobs, travelled the world, went to college, met a wide variety of people, possibly has a house they bought, etc. I don't care what you say, a 15 year old having sex with a 35 year old is never going to ne legal.
" Evolution has programmed humans to lust for pubescent youngstersour ancestors did not get to live long enough to have the luxury of delaying reproduction.
For hundreds of thousands of years, sex followed closely behind puberty. "
--Allen Frances, MD
The 35-year-old is much more mature and able to persuade her to have sex with him. So yes, I am worried about manipulation.
What does that even mean? Mandatory counselling in what; life-long consequences to a bad decision?
This sounds like a good practice before one is allowed to buy a gun, actually.
What about a 15-year-old boy; do you think he should have sex with 35-year-old women? Or with 35-year-old men?
A mature rule in sex ought to be, if the one you want to have sex with doesn't seem conscious enough to give informed consent, don't have sex, and if the one you want to have sex with seems less than enthusiastic about having sex with you, don't have sex. Leave it to a time when you're both willing and able.
Consent, easy as tea
@1909834:
Way to use distorted information. The article you're quoting from is against hebephilia, severely so.
Or did you actually read it?
an hour of mandatory counselling and a 2 day cool off period
Very effective, like abstinence (just say no), and cold showers.
Personally, I recommend a good wank instead of the discomfort.
Probability of 15yo girl surviving childbirth: 46% with top tier medical care.
Survival of fetus likewise has unfavorable odds. Instances of miscarriage, congenital defects, and complications resulting in an infant's death before age 5 nearly triple compared to a fetus carried to term by a woman of age 20.
@Nap O'Lean Tagnut
"15 year old
girls have top reproductive value"
MILFs. NEXT!
"Check out David`s reproductive value graph"
No.
If a girl can't apply for a credit card or a mortgage, she's not mature enough to give birth and look after a child.
Mary Jane Lick Sick and all paedophiles FAIL. And David should be splattered under the wheels of a Bus .
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