If I pray to God to kill you, naturally He's not going to listen to my prayer!
If I don't pray in accordance to His will, of course He's not going to answer my prayers!
If your kids ask for stupid things, will you give them what they want?
If your kids ask for things that are good for them, wouldn't you always try to give what's good to them?
Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?
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"If I don't pray in accordance to His will, of course He's not going to answer my prayers!"
To quote the great George Carlin:
"...if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will?"
"If I pray to God to kill you,"
Yeah, that's the Christian thing to do.
"naturally He's not going to listen to my prayer!"
Yeah, beings who don't exist hardly ever listen.
"If I don't pray in accordance to His will, of course He's not going to answer my prayers!"
Then what's the point of praying?
"If your kids ask for stupid things, will you give them what they want?"
Probably not, but I'd be giving them a lesson about asking for stupid things.
"If your kids ask for things that are good for them, wouldn't you always try to give what's good to them?"
Of course. Your God has a very bad record in giving people what is good for them. Diseases, war and painfully stupid people spring to mind.
"Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?"
I would like you to see ANY kind of god. Show me some evidence, Billi.
Perhaps if people were not brought up with the idea of God as Granter of Wishes, perhaps if the blatant manipulation of the "prosperity gospel" was stamped out, perhaps if more people lived by "God helps those who help themselves" (yes, I know it's Aesop, not the Bible), people would stop seeing God as a genie in a bottle. But then where would that leave Christianity?
Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?"
Well thats the point. Fundies are scared of living as adults, they want to be eternal children. They prefer having some big father figure, with a beared, sat on a cloud, who dishes out spankings to anyone who doesn't do as their told, insted of being adults and taking responsibility for their own lives, deeds and the world.
" ... Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?"
Not like my parents; they were part of my life, interacted with me, and made it clear that they loved me. Not like a genie, either; at least you get to see the genie and have your three wishes granted. Nope, IMO, god is more like a big fat wad of nothing.
Our Father, who art in heaven, I beseech Thee to do what Thou wast going to do anyway.
My prayer was answered. Therefore, God exists, and He loves me. Praise His holy name!
Do you understand now, how God is like a parent or you still wish to see God as a Genie in the Bottle?
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Really. Fantastic parenting there.
So thousands praying for the starving children is just too stupid for your God to care about, right?
As Genies are often depicted as devious and vindictive I think it's an apt comparision to your God.
God's 'Omniscience ' rendering prayer pointless.
Annihilated your own religion much, Billi?
Now you realise why we're Atheists. Nothing FAILS like Prayer.
"Do you understand now, how God is like a parent"
Then you've just admitted that your so-called 'God' is the ultimate absentee father. At least my real father - who died when I was twelve - was actually there for me. Annihilated your own religion II, Billi? Now you realise why we're Atheists II.
...aw, c'mon, Billi, throw me a fricken bone here! [/Dr. Evil] I hate it when the fundies do my own job for me! Takes out all the intellectual challenge when they logically kerbstomp themselves & their own arguments into the dirt! (*grump *) >:(
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