But God don't talk in Arabic. He talks in a REAL language, namely, English. It's true that back in them days He translated that to some other language after Speaking it in English, but after all, it's His universe and He can do what He doggone well wants to do.
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Yah, God does weird things like that, and not having people speak His favoured language right off. And He uses wacky methods like evolution for getting it spoken by His special creations. That crazy God!
And Lo, The LORD on high speaketh... well we aren't really sure, he didn't speak arimaic... or anything else we could understand... hmmm....
Actually this could account for the bible! they couldn't understand what God was saying and so, made some shit up!
it all makes perfect sense now!
A more reasonable person would come to the conclusion that a higher power doesn't have a language but is able to communicate to you in whatever language you speak since said higher power is all powerful. So the Bible was written in the language of those Humans he communicated with.
Granted, I don't believe even that happened, but your explaination is laugh out loud funny in a stupid sort of way. Although in all seriousness this is a perfectly simplified example of people making their god in their image. You hate gays, so does god. You hate abortion, so does god. You speak English...So does god!
This is one of the big causes of fundamentalism: the belief that you are God's chosen people, that God speaks only to you and no one else, that however you interpret scripture is the only way, that as God's chosen people you have the right to do anything you want in God's name.
The idea of a perfect, infinitely knowledgeable Creator speaking broken redneck American English like "God don't talk in Arabic" or "back in them days" is, frankly, laughable.
I wonder if DesertFox is trying to compensate for his linguistic deficiencies by essentially saying "Quit laughing at me! Stop it! God talks the way I does, doggone it! I mean it!"
Oh yeah, he spoke to the Hebrews and the world, through Jesus, in a language that didn´t exist yet. Congratulations.
"But God don't talk in Arabic."
Though your grammar is terrible, your point is correct. As God is imaginary, he doesn't speak any language.
"He talks in a REAL language, namely, English."
No, see above.
This reminds me of that Ma Ferguson quote about the "king's English being good enough for Jesus." And, she was governor of Texas.
"It's true that back in them days He translated that to some other language after Speaking it in English, but after all, it's His universe and He can do what He doggone well wants to do."
Surprisingly, you didn't provide any source citations for this great information.
No, your butt is NOT a credible information source.
As a linguist I find this offensive.
Ignoring the blatant stupidity, what's all this about a "real" language? What kind of criteria are you using? You know, at the time English wasn't a "real" language because NO ONE SPOKE IT. Your ethnocentrism disturbs me.
"KJV: If it was good enough for Saint James, then it is good enough for me."
If the Bible really was the miraculously inspired word of God, then we would all read it in our own language without the need for translation. Read Acts Chapter 2.
He talks in a REAL language, namely, English.
That would have been tough to do a thousand years ago, before what we call English even existed. Here's the Lord's Prayer as it would have been spoken in England around 1000 AD - long after the Gospels were written:
Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum, Si þin nama gehalgod. to becume þin rice, gewurþe ðin willa, on eorðan swa swa on heofonum. urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg, and forgyf us ure gyltas, swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum. and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge, ac alys us of yfele. soþlice.
If God called "come and get your gedæghwamlican", I bet DesertFox would starve.
@Ed
One of these days, every regular poster on FreeCon is going to spontaneously combust, and no one will shed a tear.
Hey Ed, didn't know you believed in the Rapture! ;-)
"He talks in a REAL language, namely, English."
As someone who speaks English as a second language (my first was French), I find this statement particularly offensive.
This asshole just insulted every other language on the planet, and by extension the people who speak them.
Fuck you and your trailer park, retard.
What the fuck, what makes English so much better then Chinese, Dutch, French, Latin, etc.?
And isn't English just a derivitive of German, so why isn't German so special??
God don't talk in illiterate hick.
Learn to use proper grammar please.
That being said, why wouldn't God be fluent in all languages? And why do these idiots think English is the mother tongue? If anything, it's the bastard child of a drunken orgy of damn near every language in existance. French birthed it, German paid most child support, and it generally mooches off everyone now.
He talks in a REAL language, namely, English.
Considering how the first English Bible wasn't printed until the 1600s, I don't see how that makes sense. Also, your ethnocentrism is showing.
You can't make stuff up to make conservative look stupid, because a conservative will immediately, in all seriousness, say something more stupid than what you made up.
I once heard someone holding forth on the topic of how Hebrew was the perfect language because every letter has a number associated with it, and that YHWH adds up to a certain number that is God's number.
He'd honestly never heard about numerology . Plus, he was engaging in circular logic. The number that YHWH sums to is god's number because it's what YHWH sums to.
Kudos to John for posting the Lords Prayer!
It's more comprehensible if you say it outloud, there are some words that might be recognizable to a reasonable person in there, but I'm afraid the beauty of the language is lost on Desert Fox
English is the only real language? Why did I just waste most of my life learning French & German? I'm giving up on Welsh right now!
(Okay, he didn't say it was the only one, but it's implied.)
Napoleon the Clown - Wonderful characterisation of English!
Wow...I thought this was a troll...but sadly it's by an admin there...
The Freekers are the most depressing collection of people on the web, bar none. Blustering pig-ignorant morons, all of them. DesertFox is a shining example of the capacity for rational thought on offer there.
Yeah, English is a REAL language. It's definitely not mutated hybrid version of French and German.
"It's true that back in them days He translated that to some other language after Speaking it in English, but after all, it's His universe and He can do what He doggone well wants to do."
This sentence makes me want to dismantle my computer with a hatchet.
"But God don't talk in Arabic. He talks in a REAL language, namely, English."
If this isn't a troll, we are in deep kimchee.
Well, damn, I guess he can't understand you, because you sure as Hell aren't speaking in any English of which I know.
Arabic predates English. It was the language humans spoke those days, so that's how I attempted to communicate. Unfortunately, my words were horribly misconstrued. I bet even this paragraph will be misconstrued someday.
Look i believe in the Bible. I believe in Chirst. but what the fuck, he OBVIOUSLY wasn't white! it wasn't the western world Jesus was in, it was the east. He wouldn't have been white and He wouldn't have spoken english. deal with it.
Hmmmmm. Interesting.
If I don't remember the OT completely wrong, I think it pretty clearly states that the jews are God's chosen people. I don't know, but I find it fairly logical that he would then talk to them in hebrew.
Oh yeah, and I'm presuming this person is a creatonist, if the world is only six thousand years old, at least get THAT history together. English didn't exist yet in biblical times.
As atheists we don't claim to know everything, but then again we've got a pretty much more complex universe to deal with.
would that be the English you (try to) speak, or that which I use on a daily basis? I ask because they're quite obviously different - I try to use grammatically correct structures, you seem just to pile words together
That is a fine example of Biblical stupidity. If that person lives in America, it is just one more reason why this nation is going down the drain. Whatever happened to that secular society?
Now all it seems to be is a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.
This nation needs serious changes starting now.
L'anglais, une VRAIE langue? Avant d'affirmer une telle énormité, essaie de l'utiliser correctement, imbécile!
English, a REAL language? Before making this staggeringly insulting assertion, try to use it correctly, asshole!
(native tongue: French -- second language: English)
Jos englanti on paras kieli, yrittäkää käyttää sitä kunnolla, idiootti.
Latin was the original language of the Church and the Scripture was originally written in Hebrew.
What? Spoken like a crazy conservative who doesn't know very much about the world.
I'm all for gods that speak all languages. But you need to admit that English is a convoluted mash of things from everywhere. Not very divine.
>>Ahkenaten
Latin was the original language of the Church and the Scripture was originally written in Hebrew. <<
Not quite. Early Christianity used a lot of different languages - Latin was really only for the western Roman Empire. The various forms of Greek dominated in the eastern Empire, and picked up Old Church Slavonic as they moved north. In the Middle East, many other languages were used.
And the Bible is a mixture of the Hebrew Old Testament (itself originally in a mess of Aramaic, Hebrew, and other Canaanite lanugages) and the Greek and Aramaic Gospels, Acts, and Epistles.
Now, are we sure that DesertFox isn't a Poe?
God doesn´t speak in English. If any, he speaks Greek and Hebrew(sarcasm, of course, but I can´t stand his ethnocentrism)
What, pray tell, is Arabic? A "pretend" language? How would that work, anyway?
"I don't personally understand it, therefore it must be inferior." How arrogant.
The ethnocentrism, it burns.
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bwahahahahahaha
English is not a "REAL" language; it is a combination of other languages such as Greek, Latin, Old English, Middle English, German, French, etc.
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