[On Brittany Maynard's choice to end her life.]
Are you completely insane? Suicide is a very, VERY big no no, as stated in the Bible. Yes, it's between her and God. That doens't mean she's going to heaven. And it doesn't mean we have to support it or legalize it. Are you trying to send people to hell? Do you have any idea what hell is really like? This is nuts. Where does it end? My dog died and I don't feel like living anymore? I stubbed my toe and I don't want to wait for it to heal? You people are nuts.
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Until you're in her position, you don't have the right to say that she doesn't have the right to end her life when she wants to. God doesn't want you to end your own life prematurely, but wants you to suffer as much as possible before he kills you? To hell with your god.
And suffering a terminal illness is a far cry from stubbing your toe. Grow the fuck up. If you'd listened to the interview with this woman you'd heard the part where she wanted to live, but realized it was futile.
She was suffering, I thought you people were all about stopping suffering. (Actually come to think of it, of all the times I've been on this site I don't think I've ever seen a fundie advocate for the end of suffering once.) The cancer would've left her helpless and in constant pain, so fuck you for demanding that she go through that and that other people go through it.
Suicide is a very, VERY big no no, as stated in the Bible.
Really? When you chop it down, didn't Jesus more or less commit suicide?
So a long, painful and protracted death is what God (according to the Catholics) desires for his 'beloved', because it's 'spiritual'? And you wonder why people are turning away from His teachings?
Furthermore, how are euthanasia providers deliberately trying to damn people? The key is in their name; they PROVIDE euthanasia to those who want and need it, letting them die with the dignity they deserve.
If we respect the wishes of the sick and dying, doesn't that give their lives (and thus ours) infinitely more value than dehumanising them as God's 'property', as if He owned us like chattel? How can anyone believe in the 'sanctity of life' if we do not even have ownership of it? What a sick joke!
@Flanneur: If our lives belong to God and we are God's property, our decision to end our lives is theft. We are stealing or destroying God's property, i.e. our allotted lifespan. That's why fundies think suicide is wrong--it's a form of disrespect to the Lord.
Look who's fucking talking, jackass.
That irony when the person opposing the right to end one's own life really needs to kill themself.
But wasn't it your self same loving (sic) god who put her in that position by giving her brain cancer in the first place? And, if he knows everything as you morons claim he does, then he knew long before she was even born that she was going to kill herself.
@Professor von SCIENCE!!!
I have to admit that putting in a "no suicide" clause into the bible is rather genius because fundies being who they are they would have killed themselves off long ago if they would have thought they could make it to the pearly gates sooner.
I could be wrong, but IIRC there is no clear cut "thou shall not off thyself" rule in the Babble. If memory serves me right, it was a ruling the church came up with later to deal with the tendency of part of their flock to try and take a shortcut to Heaven.
@Flanneur:
So a long, painful and protracted death is what God (according to the Catholics) desires for his 'beloved', because it's 'spiritual'? And you wonder why people are turning away from His teachings?
That was pretty much how "Mother" Theresa saw things, at least.
From what I read about Ms Maynard, she was slowly dying of a brain tumor. That's a bit harsher than a stubbed toe or grief over a dog, in my book. She didn't want to become a vegetative package with feeding and breathing tubes and adult diapers. She wanted to end it while she was still herself.
It ends where people are dying anyway, and want to do it on their own terms.
Where's the evidence of Hell?
Maynard was dying. She had no hope of recovery. She had only a few months to live, and she was wasting away. Her choice to end her life was a matter of her choosing the "when" of an event that was already inevitable.
Excuse her for wanting to die with dignity and not burden her loved ones with the sight of her wasting away. My grandmother died of cancer. And I watched for three months as she slowly withered away. She didn't even know my name in the last week of her life.
We live in Virginia (where assisted suicide is not legal), and looking back, I would have preferred she had taken the option of ending her life with some dignity, were it available to her - not just because she was in pain, but because I was as well.
So fuck you, Welker. I wanted to add "I hope one of your loved ones gets a terminal disease and they beg for assisted suicide", but right now I can't write that - because this whole Brittany Maynard thing is reminding me that I wouldn't wish that on even my worst enemy.
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