I think the problem here is with the definition of positive claim. For example Donald Trump isn't in the room is equally as ''positive a declaration'' as Donald Trump is in the room''.
Atheism is never the default since God can always be assigned a universally creative role. Sagan knew it, the Deists knew it it is only the axe grinding atheist linguistic string orchestra, who made linguistic fiddling popular, who seemed to forget it.
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The existence of your 'God' is as real as Donald Fart's hair .
Rainbows don't physically exist. You may now proceed to gouge your eyes out, Vlad. >:D
What are you tooting about, Vlad? "God can always be assigned a universally creative role." ???
What in pink-spangled unicorns does that even MEAN? That presupposes god, so that's not a positive argument for god. Logic doesn't work that way. And your analogy doesn't work. "Donald Trump isn't in the room" does not mean "there is no Donald Trump". I wish that were true, but....
If all atheists say "There definitely is no god of any sort anywhere" then you might have a point. However, it's not out of the question to say "there are no unicorns" since we humans tend to realize that they are mythical creatures created by human imagination. Unfortunately we aren't at the point where we recognize the same about gods.
"God can always be assigned a universally creative role."
Conveniently, God can be whatever you want him to be.
Atheism is the rejection of the positive claim that a god or gods exist. Is it not the positive claim that no god or gods exist.
It's similar to the difference between not guilty and innocent. The burden of proof is on the prosecution to demonstrate that someone is guilty. Failure to meet that burden of proof is not the same thing as a declaration of innocence.
Atheism is the default for human minds. All you need to do to prove that atheism is the default is travel to any European country where kids are not saturated with religion from day one, and survey a large sample of newly verbal toddlers, asking them what god is. Kids learn to believe in gods in the same way they learn to believe in a place they've never seen or a dead relative they never met; grownups insist on the reality of these non-verifiable concepts.
@Thinking Allowed
That wasn't the argument.
I'm glad you agree that thinking is allowed, if only permission amounted to ability as well LOL.
@#1988393
Hillary is 14 points ahead of Fart in Florida
The Repubicans admit they've lost Pennsylvania
Both key states.
Wiggy's chances of winning are as nonexistent as the OP's 'God'. LOL !
"Isn't" is a contraction for "is not".
Any statement including a negation like "not" is by definition a negative declaration. That's why it's called "negation".
This... this is pretty basic stuff.
You don't understand the difference between "I believe X is false" and "I do not believe X is true", do you?
What?
But you don't know that vague God concept, so Atheism IS default.
Your Biblical God is absolutely non-evident. We can't prove He or that vague God don't exist just as you can't prove Zeus doesn't exist.
Burden of prove still your in all cases.
Stupidest username ever!
"Donald Trump is not in the room" is a negative declaration, I'd say. Although, the message is positive.
Atheism is the default; it's what children are born with.
Linguistic fiddling? Sounds like something-lingus (to be a bit SFW...)
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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