[Kliska supposedly teaches a class on logic at the college level]
"Things and beings" are only imaginary if those things and beings are actually....what? Anybody? Anybody? Imaginary. When there are actual things and beings, such as God that are real, and that evidence, rational reasoning and logic point to, then they are not, by definition imaginary. God exists, there is evidence to point to Him, and reason and logic also point to Him. Hence, it is the utmost in rational thinking to let this fact pervade every single aspect of life.
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The logic on this is quite firm.
The validity of the assertions on which that logic is based, however...
I = something is imaginary.
Congrats, you just stated that I -> I. Well done.
Now show us this evidence you mention.
There is evidence that cookies exist. Rational reasoning and logic shows that cookies exist. Furthermore, my personal experience shows that cookies are delicious. Thus, we should let delicious cookies pervade every single aspect of life.
First of all, perfect post above.
Now on to your argument, or lack thereof.
Your only "hard" evidence for God, would be your Bible...which was written by man, therefore fallible by nature. Tolkien wrote some good books too, but that doesn't mean the shit in it's real.
And "reason and logic" are subjective to the person proposing it, being based on their personal capacity for such.
Short answer? You fail, as I'm sure most of your students will. Congratulations.
"Things and beings" are imaginary if those things and beings do not exist. When there are things and beings, such as God that rational reasoning and logic point to not being real, then they are, by definition, imaginary. God does not exist, there is no evidence pointing towards Him, and reason and logic also disprove Him. Hence, it is the utmost in irrational reasoning to let this myth pervade any aspect of life.
Fixed. :)
Cite your evidence first.
You can't pull a conclusion out of your anus and then use it as basis for your reasoning. In symbolic logic, it won't scan.
Kliska, I doubt if you ever came within smelling distance of a college level class in logic.
Ok! Ok! OK! show me the fucking evidence for Crying out loud! That's all I want to see!
The Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, there is evidence to point to Him, and reason and logic also point to Him. Hence, it is the utmost in rational thinking to let this fact pervade every single aspect of life.
Same logic, teach!
From that thread:
So it's great that other people have disabilities or diseases so you can learn from them?
Well, why didn't you say so, as long as you can learn something, who cares how other people have to live their lives. [/sarcasm]
1) Things are only imaginary if they are imaginary.
That's basically what I'm getting from this. I think that the assumptions in (4) particularly need some work.
So, what college do you teach at again?
Kliska supposedly teaches a class on logic at the college level
Firstly "supposedly" is the keyword here, secondly, a "a class on logic"? Is that what it's called? A class on logic? Fuck him, what kind of logic are we talking about here? Circuit logic, programming logic, investment logic, machine logic or what? 'cuz it sure as hell ain't logic logic that this moron is spouting.
Is there a 'totally unfounded assertions' wing in your libraries yet?
Should be, as most books on myth state they are fictional creations and if not are assumed to be as they're in the myth section.
As an idea to discuss, God does exist. As an entity, omnipotent, omnipresent, etc; no, there is no evidence whatsoever that any deity exist, let alone that this particular deity exists.
Reason and logic do not work like that!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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