In response to the statement:
"'intelligent design' includes bad design. If a Creator existed then it would be a flawed creator."
Bad design? Like the belief the eye was wired backward that Richard Dawkins claimed in his book, The Blind Watchmaker? But, science eventually caught up with God and determined the eye had to be wired that way for sight to occur.
Gee, ya think mankind might not have learned all there is learn about biology?
Again, life forms demonstrate superior design and complexity than man can create and only someone completely devoid of any rationality would argue that could be a result of random chance rather than a being or beings with superior intelligence
You deserve to be hell for being stupid.
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"But, science eventually caught up with God and determined the eye had to be wired that way for sight to occur."
I don't think so. Other animals have eyes that are "wired" differently from ours and they have much better eye sight than us.
But, science eventually caught up with God and determined the eye had to be wired that way for sight to occur.
Um, no, what about the squid? It's eye is "made" the right way and has no blind spot.
'intelligent design' includes bad design. If a Creator existed then it would be a flawed creator."
"Bad design?"
What town planner worth his credibility would place a sewage outflow next to the leisure centre?
Klingon physiology includes redundant backups: even a spare spinal column. [/"Star Trek: The Next Generation"]. Gallifreyans have two hearts. [/"Doctor Who"] Humans have two lungs, along with two kidneys & two eyes. Why not two brains ? [/Zaphod Beeblebrox, Dr. Hfuhruhurr]
Earlobes. Why ?
The only one who's stupid is your 'Intelligent Designer', and he was proven to [i]not[/i] exist in a court of law, no less , therefore I'm afraid that, even if he does exist, your 'God' will have to take the matter up with himself .
...but he's too stupid to do so, as doing so would entail actually existing , to be able to make a Federal case out of it, so who's the 'Hellbound' one? Not we Atheists. [/Romans 13:1-5]
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But seriously, if God designed us, being omnipotent, he would have found a better way. There's no such thing as "has to" when it comes to omnipotence... is there?
"Again, life forms demonstrate superior design and complexity than man can create"
Just because we don't understand it and can't do it yet, doesn't mean we never will; it doesn't mean you get to attribute it to your specific supernatural sky-pixie fairy-tale.
Consider lightning, before we understood it. Wasn't it "superior design and complexity", the "wrath of the gods", and attributed to Zeus? What if we said that today? You'd be a laughingstock, since we now understand how charges build and are dissipated in thunderstorms, and understand it is a completely NATURAL phenomenon.
Octopuses don't have eyes wired that way, silly!
Mankind definitely hasn't learned all there is to learn about biology, thankfully. There are more, much more to discover.
Lifeforms just demonstrate "good enough" design and complexity, and man can figure out quite a few improvements that an omnipotent being would be sure to spot immediately...
We are going to BE Hell? Awesome!
"But, science eventually caught up with God and determined the eye had to be wired that way for sight to occur."
Citation very much called for.
@pyro
But then psychiatry/psychology would be seriously screwed ! [/Schizophrenia] X3
...or at least a backup . [/RAID 1]
@Arctic Knight, Doubting Thomas, Old Viking, Swede, Canadiest
In the Cre(a)ti(o)nists' constant need to rely on the 'Eyes prove Intelligent Design!' meme, all they do is admit that the Mantis Shrimp is therefore superior to humans.
As Bananas as 'evidence' for ID was torn from Ray Cumfart's grasp, when it was proved that they are as a result of human domestication/intervention, those who live by evidence - but don't know how to use it scientifically, nor have the right to it - shall die by evidence.
I mean, what happened to 'Proof denies Faith '...?!
Most mammals can make their own vitamin C out of sugar using five genetically-coded enzymes. Humans and chimps have all five of the necessary genes, but the same one of the five is defective in both, which renders all of them useless. Why would God give humans and chimps the same genes for vitamin C that most other mammals have, but make one of them defective so they don't work? That's kind of like putting a starter motor in a car, but with one part missing so you have to crank the engine manually.
science eventually caught up with God and determined the eye had to be wired that way for sight to occur.
Nonsense. Squids and octopuses see perfectly well with their eyes wired "forward". And they focus their eyes the smart way, too - by moving the lens back and forth like a camera, instead of bending it. If our eyes worked like that, we wouldn't need reading glasses when our lenses got old and too hard to bend.
Maybe God made the octopus in His image: two arms for walking and the other six for each day's work. Plus, the octopus, like God, can change colors and camouflage itself so it's invisible.
“Again, life forms demonstrate superior design”
“and complexity than man can create”
“and only someone completely devoid of any rationality would argue that could be a result of random chance rather than a being or beings with superior intelligence”
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