I didn't come to Jesus by my intelligence and neither will you my friend.
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Incubision - that's a great site too!
Hmmmm,
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by stupidity, oh wait - no, ME! Damn.
The trouble is, that if you have any intelligence, you have to keep it under deep sedation with church, bible study and prayer. If that won't work, gradually you'll come to your senses, and then you'll leave.
The preachers spend a lot of time warning about this process as "backsliding", "apostacy" and "drifting into unbelief". It gets pathetic when they tell you that leaving the Church will make baby Jesus cry.
Here ends my sermon for today.
Diamond, that is absolutely dead on.
Alan Alda, in his autobiography*, wrote that his Catholic upbringing stressed that if he ever doubted the truth of the dogma he was being fed, even for a moment, that instant of doubt alone would instantly and permanently sever him from God and doom him to eternal torment after death. One day he found himself at Mass and abruptly realized the fact that the wafer was just a wafer, and instantly then realized that this meant that he was OUT. In a way, he found this very liberating, because once he had done the deed, he felt free to actually think about religion, examining it and other topics freely without having to try to carefully restrain or curtail his thoughts from going in forbidden directions.
~David D.G.
* Never Have Your Dog Stuffed and other stuff I've learned
Shadows, it's a good read -- Alda is a cogent, insightful, and witty writer -- but be prepared for some sad, heavy stuff regarding his family life.
~David D.G.
I didn't come to Jesus by my intelligence...
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He's right. Nobody comes to Jesus by rational thought processes. They come to Jesus out of emotional need.
Therefore, the best way to fight Fundamentalism is to address the emotions of the believer.
Saying "But, look, these two passages in the bible contradict one another" won't get you anywhere -- but saying "You believe in God because you desperately want a Father Figure, and this belief is keeping you from being happy in the here-and-now" might.
“Any hope that America would finally grow up vanished with the rise of fundamentalist Christianity. Fundamentalism, with its born-again regression, its pink-and-gold concept of heaven, its literal-mindedness, its rambunctious good cheer... its anti-intellectualism... its puerile hymns... and its faith-healing... are made to order for King Kid America.” Florence King
He's right. Nobody comes to Jesus by rational thought processes. They come to Jesus out of emotional need.
Therefore, the best way to fight Fundamentalism is to address the emotions of the believer.
Saying "But, look, these two passages in the bible contradict one another" won't get you anywhere -- but saying "You believe in God because you desperately want a Father Figure, and this belief is keeping you from being happy in the here-and-now" might.
Heck, Tracer, if we do that, we'll be accused of bulverism.
"I didn't come to Jesus by my intelligence and neither will you my friend."
Damn straight.
You need a map, a compass, some shovels and a gravedigger before that'll happen.
If following Jesus means checking your brain at the door, and blindly accepting what everyone else tells you to do, I'm too far gone to be saved. My stepdad did that all through my childhood. I'm not interested in being anyone else's wind-up toy anymore.
"I didn't come to Jesus by my intelligence"
Nah. You just used your hand.
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"I didn't come to Jesus by my intelligence"
I suppose it was silly to expect otherwise of you, right?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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