I'll throw this in as a follow up to my previous post: The reason I think I felt it was unjust for a woman I liked to prefer another woman is that she was committing an offence against the principle of a woman giving a man not only the necessary help he needs, and being given back the help she needs in life, but also the gift of procreation, which she withheld from not just me but the whole of society.
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On the other hand, the majority of the women he approaches are heterosexual and thus they all turned him down for other MEN.
Or because they'd rather be alone than with him, and who can blame them.
The selfishness of this post is breathtaking. It was unjust that a woman you liked turned out to be a lesbian? Do you have any understanding of the word "just"?
Such is life. Whining won't help. And trying to throw procreation in as a cover for your selfish bitching about someone not wanting to go out with you only makes you sound like a tool.
Women.
Don't.
Owe.
You.
Shit.
So, if we're supposed to be giving some other person "the help they need in life", why does it have to be given to someone of the opposite sex? There are over 7 billion people on the planet; procreation is hardly a gift of which society is in short supply.
"but also the gift of procreation, which she withheld from not just me but the whole of society."
Wow, what a combination you are, slack jawed drooling stupid (you don't understand what a lesbian is), and narcissistic (you think that women's lives should revolve around you), I can't imagine why you aren't being followed by hordes of ladies.
Were you raised by wolves?
If so, be careful where you stick your nose.
If not, why do you refute thousands of years of civilization and think you can latch on to whomever you fancy?
"Unjust"?? She owes you nothing at all. She doesn't owe society a litter of children. She is an autonomous person and can make up her own mind. And I have to tell you, Spud, you are extremely unlikely to persuade her otherwise with this ridiculous whine. What are you, about sixteen?
the gift of procreation, which she withheld from not just me but the whole of society.
uh ... plenty of lesbians have children.
Spud, get a dictionary and actually look up the meaning of "unjust". Hint: It's not "when I don't get my way".
Men and women both can take care of themselves. Being single isn't fatal. Gift of procreation? Not every woman wants to be or should be a mother for her sake or yours. Who do you think you are that not having your babies is an offense against society?
Okay - I am actually going to try helping you, Spud. This is not snark - at least not entirely - but rather it's fact. Take it to the bank.
1) No one owes you access to her body - even if she decided to skip out on the other woman as well, and spend the night completely alone with nothing but a vibrator.
2) If you crave sex with an active partner, but are not interested in a long-term relationship, just go to a club and hit on 100 women with the facts: 'I find you physically attractive. I'm interested in a one-night-stand; no regrets or entanglements.' Because women enjoy sex as much as men, and because some women enjoy risky sex, there's a good chance if you're simply honest about your intention you will end up having sex with an actual woman instead of with the jizz hardened and mutilated body pillow you wish could make you a sammich after you're done ploughing it.
3) If you're looking for a long-term relationship and wish for a naturally submissive woman as partner, then advertise it. There are plenty of women out there interested in subservience. Hell, for some of them it's not merely a role but a kink that will land you tonnes of sex.
Why lament the women who turn you down, regardless of why? If you're goal is sex, take rejection with a stiff upper lip and go looking for a good lay elsewhere.
Honesty - it makes sex a thousand times more enjoyable for both partners.
I'm not sure about what kind of "help" you say you could give a lady, but if all you have to offer is a chance of procreating, I don't think you'll be charming anybody any time soon.
SHE'S GAY! SHE DOESN'T WANT TO PROCREATE WITH YOU!!! GET SOME LUBE AND USE YOUR HAND!!! YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO SEX AND THERE MORE TO A WOMAN THAN "BABY FACTORY"!!!
I'll bet she isn't even gay. Mr. Idiot just can't wrap his head around the fact that he isn't Casanova!
If a guy like him doesn't take THAT, then it's proof that he and his ilk are really just sadists with a rape fetish who want to make others miserable for funsies.
I am not a woman, but if was and I had Spud trying to hit on me I would probably lie and say I was a Lesbian even if I wasn't just to make him leave me alone.
People tend to be able to spot creeps. It's not a womans intuition thing, it's a social experience thing. Talk to Spud for 5 minutes and I'm fairly sure most people would have him pegged.
What "necessary help" does a man need, that he can't do himself, or that another man can't help him with?
Procreation is something you do together, nitwit, not something one does to the other. An egg and a sperm are mixed, and, nine months later, a child is born.
So, if you turn down a woman you find unattractive or boring, you're committing an offence against the gift of procreation, too? Or is it only you who ought to be able to get any woman you want?
Confused?
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