I believe Adam was made from dirt....we all essentially are...why? Our food comes from the dirt. The water and dirt are taken into the plant and converted to the foods. Animals also eat plants and other animals.....so we are all dirt in essence....and DNA. Eve being made from the DNA of Adam's rib, babies being made from mother's and father's DNA combined, then from food mom eats from the dirt (plants), etc. No big deal.
However, I'm not a creationist nor evolutionist. I believe in creation. Different.
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"However, I'm not a creationist nor evolutionist. I believe in creation. Different."
Ah, so the "ist" part makes all the difference. Maybe that's the bit where all the stupidity is housed!
Our Food comes from plants... Your food may come from dirt, but my food comes from plants... My plants use CO2, Water and sunlight and trace elements from the soil to make their food. Yours seem to use magic...
We are all technically coal if you want to argue. In the same way that diamonds are technically coal.
Oh.. Morbo says "DNA does not work that way"...
However, I'm not a creationist nor evolutionist. I believe in creation. Different.
Nope. Just a plain ol' dumbarse.
However, I'm not a creationist nor evolutionist. I believe in creation. Different.
It's strikes me as ironic he can get fussing about being called "creationist" but will happily use the term "evolutionist"
Badly expressed, but I see where she is aiming at, and I don't think she's that fundy. What she is trying to say is that the "from dirt" part is a metaphore for the fact we can trace our substinance to the soil, which is fair enough.
The whole "I believe in creation" part is just stupid, though. Depending on how she defines it, she just means creationism (whether she knows or not), or she refers to the existance of reality. Which requires no faith (unless you really consider the "this reality is just a dream and we are all connected to the Matrix" hypothesis)
Hope that helps,
Grey Wolf
No. If man were made of dirt, then surgeons would find dirt when they open people up. Man and dirt are both composed of various compounds of the elements; this does not mean they are composed of each other, even if the atoms that make up one happened to have been part of the other at some point. A big problem here is your vague, unscientific baby-talk - scientists don't use words like "made of" because they're ambiguous.
If you had even a rudimentary scientific education, you might actually have a proper grasp on the nature of matter that is actually known at present, and also be able to express it more lucidly than the flailing drivel we've got here; as it is, you seem to have tried to work it all out for yourself and got about as far as the "earth (dirt), air, fire & water" stage. There are a lot more than four elements, and none of them is "dirt".
Debbie,
Not intended to make you suck eggs but all 'dirt' is, is the remains of dead plants and animals, which have died, decomposed and whose remains now cover most of the rocks on land and most of the sea bed.
We are not 'made' from dirt, but we are 'powered' by dirt in the same way that most life is indirectly powered by the sun. The plants grow in the dirt, extracting nutrients and water by harnessing the power of sunlight (via photosynthesis), the animals eat the plants and we eat the animals.
When you die, you will become dirt as well, either by the decomposition of your physical remains or the adding to the dirt of your incinerated ashes. One day you will help a plant grow who in turn will feed an animal, who in turn will make a burger to be wasted by McDonalds and a greedy public with a 'take it for granted' attitude.
At least you recognised DNA.
No animosity towards you, you haven't offended me in anyway.
debbiepittman ... Debbie Pittman?!? I went to high school with a girl by that name! (She was cute, too, and rather smart I thought. She also turned me on to the music of Alan Parsons Project, for which I still thank her.)
I think this Debbie is trying to say that she believes in theistic evolution -- i.e., that she's not denying anything of the science, but that she believes that the process was all started by God (i.e, that he lit the fuse on the Big Bang). Without any other context, at least, that's all this post seems to be saying. Many, many Christians and other theists take this position, at least passively, and I can live with that. It's just when they try to distort or deny the science that I have problems with them.
If you believe in creation, but don't call yourself a creationist, what does that make you, a cretin?
Our food comes from the dirt. The water and dirt are taken into the plant and converted to the foods.
Were you off school sick the day the biology teacher discussed photosynthesis? Although plants do of course need minerals from the soil the vast majority of a plant is formed from water and the carbon dioxide in the air. If plants were formed from 'dirt' farmers would need to refill their fields with new dirt every year.
Judging from the presence of iron in our bodies as a vital element, we could also say that we are made from the remains of dead, long-gone stars. But essentially, WHO CARES?
Christians seem to love calling human bodies 'dirt'. Well, whatever helps them feel more inferior, if they like that sort of thing...
I know schools are strapped for cash, but you'd really think they'd be using books that were more recent than the 17th century.
Okay, you believe Adam was created from dirt, that Eve was created from Adam, and that plants are created from dirt. But you're not a creationist. Well what the hell would you call it then?
No, we're all essentially star dust, and so is that dirt debbie likes so much. That's way cooler AND scientifically accurate.
So science is, once again, more awesome than the Bible. WHUT NOW?!? :P
How does one get DNA from dirt? I'm curious, 'cos, if my biology classes were right, only living things have DNA in them--stuff like rocks and dirt don't.
Also, plants don't eat soil. They absorb nutrients, and there's a difference.
Confused?
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