One reason (one of many) is that the "big bang theory" is not a theory. By the basic rules of the scientific method, In order for it to be a theory, there would have to be some sort of hypothesis to explain the source of the big bang. There is none. No scientist has a logical explaination, not even a good suggestion, to suggest the cause of the "big bang," and the supposed "instantaneous appearance" of all the matter in the universe from nothing.
That leaves creation and the existence of God as the ONLY theory on universal origins. That seems pretty conclusive to me.
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Hypothesis of the origin of the Big Bang: hyperbranes, of string theory. Thus, according to his own logic, Privratnik is now an Atheist.
If only it were that easy...
Grey Wolf
That leaves creation and the existence of God as the ONLY theory on universal origins. That seems pretty conclusive to me.
Actually, that would leave many, many gods and creation myths. How did you choose yours out of that lot, seeing as none of them have a shred of evidence?
Besides, the failure of one theory doesn't automatically make another one correct, even if there is only one other - it's entirely possible that the real answer hasn't even been hypothesised yet if that's the case.
that's so ironic, seeing as there's no logical explanation, not even a good suggestion, as to where God came from.
Did he just try to make the whole "Can't explain the source" argument? Don't they realise that this EXACT argument can be used against any God?
Fundie: "You can't explain what actually caused the Big Bang in the first place, can you?"
Non Fundie: "Well, can you explain where God came from?"
Fundie: "Ah, well that's different..."
Because, obviously, the Bible is the only other document that has ever attempted to explain the origin of the universe.
Izanami and Izanagi tell me the world was made from sea foam.
In order for it to be a theory, there would have to be some sort of hypothesis...
For fuck's sake. Are you kidding me?
You believe this because someone told you.
Please identify this person, so that Minitrue may deal with him.
If that person was Hovind, well, Miniluv is dealing with him as we speak.
btw, there can be as many 'theories' about any hypothetical beginning, as there are human minds. This bronze-age fleabit bible bullshit deserves to stay in the bronze age.
You are sooo clever, Privratnik. You blithely fell into the same old pit of scriptural poison. Does this make you 'good' or 'right' or something?
Are you clever enough to get yourself out?
Even if the Big Bang had a supernatural origin, that doesn't prove:
(a) the creation was done by only one god.
Not very theologically useful, is it?
While it is true that there are wildly differing theories as to the origin of the central mass-point of the Big Bang theory, an inability to identfy the cause does not invalidate the effect.
If you are dying of a mysterious illness, and Dr. House can't figure out what is causing it, you still die. (And then House cuts up your dead body and figures out what killed you, but that doesn't help you much, dies it?) In the same way, the lack of a clear understanding of a cause for the Big Bang does not invalidate the event.
Besides, creation is not an A or B question. It's not "Big Bang" or "God." Even if the Big Bang were quantitatively disproved tomorrow, that would not by default prove creation.
I don't believe in god.
One reason (one of many) is that the "god theory" is not a theory. By the basic rules of the scientific method, In order for it to be a theory, there would have to be some sort of hypothesis to explain the source of god. There is none. No scientist has a logical explaination, not even a good suggestion, to suggest the cause of "god," and the supposed "6-day appearance" of all the matter in the universe from nothing.
That leaves the non-existence of God as the ONLY theory on universal origins. That seems pretty conclusive to me.
Ah, I see.
So when the current limits of contemporary science can't explain something, that means that "goddidit" MUST be the correct explanation, and that clearly means that everything in the Bible must therefore be literally true.
"One reason (one of many) is that the "big bang theory" is not a theory."
Indeed. Just five years later, the Higgs-Boson was found, confirming the Standard Model already known to exist on paper.
(*sings 'Fallen Angel' ED theme from "Panty & Stocking [with Garterbelt]" by Aimee B *):
'So close, so close...!'"
"That leaves creation and the existence of God as the ONLY theory on universal origins. That seems pretty conclusive to me."
The 'Watchmaker Fallacy'. Even the Watchmaker had to have a mother & father. All sentient beings have an origin. No Exceptions. So... Who created God?
(*Places cold Fundie Argument Stiffy-annihilating Shovel on shoulder casually, walking away from Pritwatnik's argument now laying on ground in the foetal position, hands on now wilted two-dimensional molecule-sized willy; pain & agony so infinite, it can't even make a sound *)
>:D
If your looking for an explanation of the Big Bang that equals your God belief, that's real fuckin' easy.
Nothing woke up 20 years ago and decided to do something, it created all we know and knew all the years before at the same time.
That's neither Big Bang theory or Christianity but it's JUST as valid as Christianity
If you're suggesting the BBT is invalid because it doesn't explain the 'origin' of the big bang, I'd ask you explain who created God, because as you said, 'there would have to be some sort of hypothesis to explain the source' of God.
Oh, yeah, and you better go jump off a cliff, because the 'theory' of gravity doesn't explain the source of gravity, so that must be wrong, too.
“I believe in God.”
“One reason (one of many) is that the "big bang theory" is not a theory.”
“By the basic rules of the scientific method, In order for it to be a theory, there would have to be some sort of hypothesis to explain the source of the big bang.There is none.”
“No scientist has a logical explaination, not even a good suggestion, to suggest the cause of the "big bang," and the supposed "instantaneous appearance" of all the matter in the universe from nothing.”
“That leaves creation and the existence of God as the ONLY theory on universal origins.”
“That seems pretty conclusive to me.”
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