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Various media reported that Nye had a great concern that the Ark Encounter (and the Creation Museum and Answers in Genesis ministry) will adversely influence children.
Isn’t it amazing, 1) considering all the ardently evolutionary museums across America and around the world, 2) recognizing that evolution is taught as fact to millions of students in the public schools (in the United States and across the globe), and 3) noting all the evolutionary programs on TV and articles in magazines and so on, that secularists like Bill Nye are greatly fearing one Creation Museum and now one Ark?
The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished. Thus secularists have to censor creation science beliefs from our schools. They fear they may easily lose people to creationist arguments.
Watch some of the most captivating and eye-opening video segments of my Ark tour with Mr. Nye in this recent blog post .
We have been blessed to have received many great testimonies from guests visiting the Ark Encounter in just its first week. Here is one that greatly encouraged me, and it came from a pastor: "[T]he Holy Spirit was strong in that place. I stayed choked up for the first two levels. The longer I stayed and the more I saw, the more I thought on the Word of God and what Christ did for us—I could hardly talk!"
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"[...]ardently evolutionary museums[...]"
Wait.
What?
Oooh, you mean *science* museums. Poor thing, being this dumb and/or willingly ignorant must be confusing.
"The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished."
And yet, they work better than the horsecrap religious imposters keep spouting.
"Thus secularists have to censor creation science beliefs from our schools. They fear they may easily lose people to creationist arguments."
Just as it is easy to lose them to BS. Lying always sways a part of the population and the bigger the lie, the worse it is.
"considering all the ardently evolutionary museums across America and around the world, 2) recognizing that evolution is taught as fact to millions of students in the public schools (in the United States and across the globe), and 3) noting all the evolutionary programs on TV and articles in magazines and so on,"
Not only that, it's also taught that the earth circles the sun!
Ol' Science Guy should reply to Ken 'Tsundere For Bill Nye' Ham 'I'll look at your 'Ark': when it's floating on water '.
...with the PS: 'Oh, and bring your Scuba gear. You'll need it. ' >:D
Hey, if S.H.I.E.L.D. can build a Helicarrier, I'm sure the US Navy would be interested in your designs for the world's first ship-cum-submarine , Hambone...! [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]
No, it won't adversely affect all children. But it has created and enhanced the ignorance of its own little pocket of the gullible. Those kids will grow up to be the next crop of unemployable, uneducable adults. That's not what the world needs, Ken, more dolts. The jobs of the future are brain jobs, not brute muscle jobs, and there aren't enough seats in congress to accommodate any more fools.
"The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished."
Let me go get the popcorn ready because I really want to enjoy it when you try and back this one up.............OK, I'm ready (*munch, munch*). Let's hear it.
I'm curious, just how does Kenny's Big Bullcrap Experience address things like genetic drift and the fact that a gene pool of only eight people in not a viable base for a successful species? And he animals would have it infinitely worse, having only a gene pool of a single pair per each species with which to work.
The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished. Thus secularists have to censor creation science beliefs from our schools. They fear they may easily lose people to creationist arguments.
Psychological projection is a fundie's best friend!
"[T]he Holy Spirit was strong in that place. I stayed choked up for the first two levels. The longer I stayed and the more I saw, the more I thought on the Word of God and what Christ did for usI could hardly talk!"
Go look up "Jerusalem syndrome" for me. Same shit, smaller scale.
The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished
If they were, the people who demolished them would have won the Nobel Prize. Anyway, demolishing the ToE wouldn't make Genesis right - that's one that actually is easily demolished.
"The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished."
Which is why you totally handed Bill Nye his ass in that debate you had with him, right? Oh, wait...
The Ark will be closed next year due to financial problems.
They do not have more than 2-3000 visitors per day and need over 5000 to break even.
But, as usual, the tax payers will be the ones left with the bill!
1. They are called Museums of Natural History.
2. Algebra and gravity are also taught as facts.
3. Evolutionary programs on TV? Well, as we are all products of some 3 billion years of evolution, every program with something alive in them could be seen as evolutionary programs...
If they could be easily demolished, they wouldn't be theories any longer.
Creationism isn't science, there is nothing to refute or demolished, as you haven't provided any evidence yet.
We also fear losing the children to drugs and trafficking.
I'd probably be choked up in Hambone's Folly too, as I suffer from claustrophobia.
@Darkevilme
That video is awesome!
Everyone should watch this!....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSXs9ZGeNLI
....I made it clickable, this time.
In a nutshell....
* Ken's ark isn't an ark. It's a building shaped like one.
* Even if it was a real boat. It wouldn't be sea-worthy.
* It's not filled with critters, either and such a thing would be a massive biohazard. It would require tons of pipes, windows and other things that would also render a boat not seaworthy.
* The Bible says the ark had only one window. In reality it would be a dark filthy hellhole full of ammonia, methane and disease. Noah, his family and the critters would be dead in no time flat.
* U.S. laws and building codes would never permit such a deathtrap. Thus; A BUILDING that looks like a boat with electric lights, windows and animatronic critters.
* Ham's little experiment is a huge bust and his park only proves how wrong he is. I'll bet Ken Ham personally realizes all this....but since he's so invested in this Creationism thing (and it's his bread & butter), he can't turn back now!
@Meeeh:
Source? I hadn't heard of this, though I'm unsurprised by it.
@SpukiKitty :
Glad you enjoyed. It's a very good indepth explaination...also I kinda dig paul chartley's voice when it comes to describing the follies of creationism.
recognizing that evolution is taught as fact to millions of students in the public schools
There's a reason for that, Kenny.
The secular arguments about origins and earth history are easily demolished.
"Were you there?" "Show me a dog giving birth to a cat" "Why are there still monkeys?" "Crockoduck" and "I didn't come from no monkey!" don't demolish the Theory of Evolution.
@Meeeh:
There's a linked video in annotation that shows it with the entire main carpark full, but the secondary and tertiary ones are empty.
Though that's apparently at peak times (saturday) and the place does need to pull in a LOT of people.
I'm not saying its not doomed but I think the evidence should not be overstated. Let us not crow about the demise of the ark encounter until american atheists have bought it and turned it into a national headquarters (After all, they have far more reason to setup shop in a giant monument to the impossibility of the flood myth than ken ham does.)
@Darkevilme
Museums, even shitty ones, are damn expensive to maintain. If Ham doesn't get those figures he wants, there is no way Ark Encounter will survive.
@Uilleam:
Don't mistake me. I think Kenny boy is as screwed here as he is with the creation museum which also loses money each year.
It's just I think that the signs of his personal apocalypse are being overstated and we need more time for these portents to really set in.
@Darkevilme
There's a linked video in annotation that shows it with the entire main carpark full, but the secondary and tertiary ones are empty.
I did a quick count back when the drone videos were released and found about 8-900 cars. Let's say on average 3 persons per car? 2400 -2700...
And how many of those paid the full price? Any discount coupons? Free admission tickets?
@Meeeh:
Okay.
so. we have one video on saturday, in which. they have. Well someone said 1400 cars and I'm inclined to believe them or at least i'm not counting them myself. so 1400, 3 average...4500 ish? even with a few hundred for buses and more showing up through the day that'd be tricky to get the 5600..and that's on their most ideal day.
...and they need 5600 visitors on weekdays as well?
I take it back. Kenny boy is fucked. I mean, if he needs 5600 a day to get that as an average he needs to probably be pulling double that on saturday-sunday to make up for the weekdays. And if sundays are below the average daily par and saturdays he's barely making it...
I can well believe they'd be closing it next year for financial reasons. Though I haven't seen any news to that effect.
Keep checking vids on this farce, very small groups even in there own promotional vids from a couple days ago. Opening day was the only legitimate crowd I've seen.
I've predicted the Tax-Payers would be eating this for years and since it's the South, you can bet they'll be little noise about Kennys welfare racket and a lot of bitchin' about blacks and muzzies tanking the system.
At least he didn't call it the "All Timber" or "replica" ark this time. Probably just cause it's a short whine this time.
Confused?
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