["The Galloping Ghost" Ned Spencer wrote:
see that is the problem- your attitude is so pessimestic
 
        
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                I know, let's have someone rip crip's gonads off, then require he display them prominantly in his yard for him and the rest of the world to see every day.
 
        
            
        
            
                
                It´s a gift if it´s conceived with love and in a nice environment. I think that the girl should give the child in adoption, I feel, but please, don´t say that we´re pessimistic. Specially regarding that, if idiots like you didn´t insist on your old motto, keep your legs closed, she would not suffer so much, being seen as a whore
 
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
                
                If crip were raped and became [regnant and then could come on and say she considered the poor misbegotten thing a gift then she's a stonger person than I. Somehow, though, I dounbt that she would feel this way---with the fundies it's always different when it comes to them. 
 
        
            
                
                It's not a baby at the time the abortion would be performed. 
 
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
                
                I'm guessing Crip's father raped Crip's mother, and that's where Crip came from, so now s/he's doing everything s/he can to convince himself/herself that rape babies are "gifts". Probably because Crip's mother hates him/her.
 
        
            
        
            
        
            
                
                If you read further into the thread, later on she says "I was raped.  I believe it was for a reason."
 
        
            
                
                Burning Stake 
 
        
            
        
            
                
                I agree with you Redhunter  that needing a reason isn't necessarily the healthiest thing to think as opposed to learning that the world is a dangerous place and learning how to protect oneself from it.
 
        
            
                
                Ok crip <3, lets see YOU get pregnant when you cannot possibly support the baby, and then have to wrestle with the guilt and the anxiety wondering how the hell you can take care of the child. THEN tell us that, "a baby is a gift from God no matteer what". 
 
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
                
                I actually agree with crip, babies are valuable and shouldn't be killed (even as a "blob").Proverbs 6:16-17 
 16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
 17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Jeremiah 1:5 
5Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Luke 1:15 
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
 
        
            
                
                
It's not a baby at the time the abortion would be performed.  
        
            
        
            
                
                richardT: You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect it, although I strongly disagree. But I just want you to know that for me, and surely for lots of people in this comments forum, what scriptures say has zero relevance.
 
        
            
                
                richardT: According to scripture, it is NOT a baby. 
 
        
            
                
                OMG, Seomah, did crip <3 really say that last part there?? That's, like, rape advocate of the century right there. 
 
        
            
                
                According to the comment of Burning Stake:
 
        
            
                
                crip <3 is something
 
        
            
                
                Ok. If I came over to your house and gave you an elephant, you should thank me.
Elephants are awesome.
Now, you will need to feed it your own body weight probably a few times a day at least, and hide it from the local authorities, and give it proper training and hope it doesn't destroy your house...
But it's a gift!
 
        
            
        
            
        
            
        
            
                
                A baby, forced upon a woman, is a gift. Unless,  of course, she is unmarried and had sex willingly, in which case it's a "consequence", and "just what she deserved". 
Schizo fundies.
 
        
        
     
    
    
    
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