I trust the FDA about as much as I would trust the Anti-Christ himself! Over 30 years ago, they KNEW for fact, that petro based additives in our foods was causing adverse reactions in children, they swept it under the rug and today we have an entire generation of children who just can't be parented--think ADHD, hmmm sounds like what the bible says about children being rotten to their parents in end times. A recent study out of England in the Lancet has proven that these are causes of ADHD, and in all of the US media, it has been concluded that we can't take them out of our food, because it would bankrupt the nation!
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We know for fact, that mercury is dangerous and yet it was still in all of our vaccinations until 2000, when docs were allowed to use up their supply.
What would you have done? Stop giving anyone vaccinations while you waited for new ones to be manufactured, and trust to luck that they didn't catch anything that would cripple or kill them in the meantime?
"Come Lord Jesus, Come!"
Holy bukkake, Batman!
Mercury? In vaccinations?
Actually, that does sound like the kind of science they had in the Fundy Golden Age.
Actually, I would have to agree with this person.
Mostly because I read "Fast Food Nation."
Where the major food companies placed intense pressure on the government to water down the FDA.
@ Marconi: Getting your sermon from radio preachers makes about as much sense as getting your science from Coast to Coast AM.
Turns out there was a study in the Lancet that found that there is a link to ADHD. The other ramifications about the FDA "knew all along" and all that - speculation I imagine.
More CTSTDT than FSTDT IMO.
Well, can't say I'm surprised the fundie buys the "mercury causes autism/ADD/insert random neurological disorder here." If you're willing to buy one line of bullshit, you might as well buy it all.
For those curious, the "mercury" in vaccines is thimerosal, a preservative that these days is limited to some flu vaccines. Said "mercury" is about as much mercury as chlorine in salt is poisonous (in other words, it's a compound). Thimerosal can be dangerous, but only in amounts far higher than what's found in vaccines, and it does not cause autism, ADD/ADHD, or any other neurological disorder as some claim. Study after study has shown there to be no such correlations (excepting a few done by the Geiers, who have financial stake in a product that's only useful if said link were real). The mercury thing is mostly just a scam so people can sell bullshit "cures" for autism based on bad science and false premises. Unfortunately, a lot of well meaning parents have been conned by this and are enlisted to keep spreading the lies, as correcting them gets played in the arena of public opinion as "those nasty scientists attacking mothers cause they don't care."
Fundies and quackery, two bad tastes that taste worse together.
Mmmmm.... fundy conspiracy quackiness, my favorite.
This joker is refering to a recent study McCann et al. (2007) that came out in the Lancet. It did not find an association between ADHD and food additives. It did find several statistically significant associations between food preservatives + dyes to attention and hyperactivity.
And the study did have some real flaws. The design couldn't say whether it was the dyes, or the preservatives, or both together. There were two age cohorts, but the same assesements were not used for both. And rather oddly, the one of the mixes showed an effect for the older cohort, but not for the 3 year olds.
As to the mercury, a massive study, Thompson et al. (2007) just came out the previous month. Thimerosal doesn't do dick in terms of harming neurology.
@Ex-Fundie, the Geiers used the California Department of Disability Services database to come to the conclusion that the removal
They saw what appeared to be a downturn and got really excited. The bummer for them is that the number of new cases kicked back up the next quarter and has remained high since.
"It did not find an association between ADHD and food additives. It did find several statistically significant associations between food preservatives + dyes to attention and hyperactivity."
Huh? You just contradicted yourself, unless you don't think there ADHD has anything to do with "attention and hyperactivity."
DSM-IV for the win.
@Inter
Yeah, I couldn't remember the details of the study off-hand at the time. But they did it a few more times than just the once as I recall. As for their financial gain from establishing such a link, in my laziness I'll merely direct you to wikipedia .
@Goal
Much like not all coughs are tuberculosis, not all hyperactivity and attention troubles are ADHD.
@Goal,
Careful....Please remember that subclinical behaviors, do not equal a disorder. The presence of some attending issues and some hyperactivity isn't necessarily going to net you an ADHD diagnosis. At least not according to the DSM-IV-TR, that you mentioned.
The authors in McCann et al. were careful to mention that they looked at typically developing chidlren, not chidlren who were diagnosed with ADHD.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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