(Commenting on story "A Headache for Evolutionists? Scientists Discover ’Unimaginable Complexity’ in DNA"):
Creation itself testifies of our Creator. Clear and unmistakable design points to the Designer. Just the discoveries in a strand of DNA should have ended all debate a long time ago: “DNA is an information code. The overwhelming conclusion is that information does not and cannot arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. Intelligence is a necessity in the origin of any informational code, including the genetic code, no matter how much time is given.” (Lane Lester, Ph.D. Genetics, The Natural Limits to Biological Change, 1989.) And surprise, surprise, the incredible degree of this complexity of design just continues to baffle the evolutionary believers in “magic”.
“The bottom line? The genome continues to show evidence of complexity and precise design.”
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"Creation itself testifies of our Creator. Clear and unmistakable design points to the Designer."
Creation itself testifies of a a
"The overwhelming conclusion is that information does not and cannot arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. "
Except for the times it was observed to do so in the lab.
"And surprise, surprise, the incredible degree of this complexity of design just continues to baffle the evolutionary believers in “magic”."
And surprise, surprise, science baffles you believers in creationary "miracles", not us. Deal with it blind one!
Argument from Incredulity, you stupid bastard.
At least he got through a message without saying "adorable" or "muffin".
I looked up Lane Lester. He holds a PHD from Purdue University in ecology.
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Hey The Last Chump, how about citing someone who stayed with the science of genetics instead of a guy who didn't give up his science to promote garbage.
Citing a paper from 1989 to prove a point made using research in the past few years? Ugh, it's more and more obvious each day that Trumpy here has never even taken a 100-level science course. Any credible citation must be CURRENT: now, as of 2016, that means 2012 or later, if available. And, given the mountains of research being poured into biological fields, I'm fairly sure there has been at least a few papers on evolution since '89.
NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
How many more times do I need to repeat myself. DNA is NOT an informational code. It is responsible for only two things. Replicating the DNA during nucleosynthesis before transcription and translation OR the synthesis of mRNA I which then acts as the sequence for amino acids which forms the primary structure of proteins.THAT IS IT! If a designer was responsible for this then why was Operin-Haldine able to recreate the 20 amino acids which are responsible for creating proteins. Surely that should have been impossible as god was not invoked but biochemistry and organic chemistry was.
Maybe if you where not such a science avoider, you could pick up a biology textbook which provides the answers, instead of just blindly proclaiming I don't know, ergo god.
Also, if god designed everything why did he manage to fuck up the most important enzyme in nature (Rubisco) by making it so bloody inefficient? If god was in my lab, he'd be fired for incompetence.
That's not only not how DNA works, that's also not how CODES WORK. A code is ABSOLUTELY spontaneously generated! It is simply a previously agreed to word, sentence, sequence or ANYTHING that will, upon it happening, trigger the previously-agreed thing to happen. That's a CODE. A password, that's a code. The numbers the baseball catcher throws the pitcher, that's also a code. An HTML file interacting with a webbrowser to produce a page? ALSO A CODE. And Hedgehog already explained what DNA is! So there! You're not only WRONG, you are FRACTALLY WRONG!
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But if evolution works, why do we need to add a creator on top of it?
This view is called theistic evolution. YEC creationists reject it because to them it closes the gap where god could be.
Ok, if a creator were able to make something so incredibly complex than that creator must also be complex. Where did THAT complexity arise from? Douchebags like this miss the whole point. Evolution explains why there is complexity in biological nature. It explains it very nicely with no need for magic. All this type of argument does is push the same question back to another level. Where did the original complexity come from? How did it arise?
Uhhh,last trump--you do realize that complexity isn't a hallmark of designed systems? Simplicity is: complexity is a hallmark of systems that arise as the result of serial trial and error.
No competent engineer sets out to deliberately achieve the most complicated solution to a design problem they can envision.
Yeah, Evolution is kind of crappy when it comes to designing stuff, which implies its the designer and not an entity like God man or sunbro. It's like design by committee. It's generally shit, but things happen. Like our eyes could be a lot better if we started over from scratch, instead of trying to retool fish eyes.
@JGC
Unless you're a German engineer.
DNA changes with each offspring, not just because it's a combination of mother and father, but tiny mutations occur as well.
Shuffle a deck of cards; the chance that the deck would end up in that particular order is very, very, very small. There must therefore have been an intelligent designer who deliberately put the cards in that particular order, right?
For the umpteenth time; evolution is not about origin of life, but about adaptation of life. We're not the ones believing in magic man on a cloud; you are. We accept the evidence.
You couldn't find a more recent source for your claim...?
Biology predicted we should find a blueprint of chemical encoding of some sort or another. It was necessary to reproduction. Back when they suggested it and before Creationists insisted we'd never find such a thing, creationist insisted in supernatural driven repopulating that would be unfindable or in which biological programming was unnecessary. Every little bungle a gift from God, how dare we mortals presume such knowledge.
Then it was found and many of your lot denied it for years (some still do) but then you decided it proved God even more, that thing that didn't exist was now Gods scribbling. And the goalpost never stays put.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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