PBHayes #fundie disqus.com

Colin Rafferty:
What special protections and benefits are gay asking for? The right to marry? To not be fired for their sexual orientation? Guess what, straight people have always been able to marry! And the same laws that protect gays from sexual orientation discrimination also protect straight people.

PBHayes:
I respect your opinion but disagree. Same sex marriage is not marriage and it never will be. The term marriage is meaningful and has been for centuries. Changing it to fit some false narrative does not change reality. You ask what special protections and benefits are gays asking for like they aren't asking for anything. If that's the case then why do gays insist on forcing people who hold more traditional values regarding sexuality and religious beliefs to their will?

Colin Rafferty:
They aren't asking for anything that straight people don't already have. That's why I asked you what "special protections" they're asking for. Your words, not mine.
The marriage issue is about secular, not religious marriage. There are dozens of tax advantages and legal advantages to being married, and they want (and now have) equal rights.
What are you being forced to do, other than not get in the way? You are being forced to not fire someone for being gay. Being forced to allow same-gender couples in your hotel. Being forced to provide service for all the people that walk through your company doors, not just the people you like.

PHBayes:
Gays had all those rights under civil unions but that wasn't enough as they had to hijack the institution of marriage to feel better about themselves. Now there is an effort to extend the protections of the Civil Rights Act to sexuality and there is no equivalence between racial and sexual discrimination. This isn't the 50's and society has evolved. Maybe if gays didn't insist on marching in thongs with dildos strapped around their waists people wouldn't find them so offensive.

Colin Rafferty:
I'm in the US. Gay people didn't have those rights under civil unions here. In fact, while they were trying to get and keep them, the bigots were busy taking that away. We had DOMA, which specifically exempted the federal government from honoring same-gender civil unions.
But again, what special protections are gay people looking for? You still haven't told me any.
If you are so traumatized that you can't stand other people aren't like you, that's your problem, and not everyone else's.

PBHayes:
Gays Asking For Special Treatment, Not Equal Rights has become a large part of the leftist arguments that have brought about such a steep decline in our nation. The left is killing our country and a large part of the leftist agenda is the gay agenda.
What happened to the land of the free and the home of the brave? This so-called greatest country in the world is turning itself into the land of the free-as-long-as-you-are-tolerant-of-the-things-we-choose and the home of the cry babies.
The biggest argument coming from this ever-growing group is that homosexuals do not receive the same rights as heterosexuals. But in reality, they do. A man who professes to be gay has the same right as a straight man: to marry a woman.

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