Different cultures have Creation stories too. Like the aboriginal Dream Time.
And how evil entered the world through a woman. Like the story of Pandora's Box.
Noah's Flood compared to the Epic of Gilgamesh.
Many scholars argue that the biblical accounts are copied from these stories.
I'm not a scholar, but I believe God and I think those stories were copied from biblical accounts.
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No. You believe what you want to believe and claim that what you want to believe is actually what God wants you to believe.
In other words, you're a crazy.
Thank you come again.
"I'm not a scholar,"
That much is certain.
"but I believe God"
You can't show that God exists nor that your idea of what he said is correct.
"and I think those stories were copied from biblical accounts."
Even though these stories predate your Bible by centuries. Indeed, you are no scholar.
Hmmm. This raises an interesting question. Which is more foolish, pretending the bible stories occurred historically before these other stories, or pretending that the devil knew what was going to happen in the future and made all these cultures come up with these stories, so that people could be confused about it, several thousand years later?
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so, the bible is over 40000 years old, and somehow the "ancient christians because catholisism isnt christianity" managed to go to australia, tell them about stuff.
yeah, mega ass pull.
also, he is user number 666.
I'm not a scholar, but I believe God and I think those stories were copied from biblical accounts.
Or, you know, the other way around.
Noah's Flood compared to the Epic of Gilgamesh.
The simplest explanation is that these were stories that made the rounds of many Semitic cultures. Gilgamesh repeated the story, the Bible repeated the story, the Egyptians repeated the story, etc. Each one inserted their own god and their own tribe as the stars.
A perfect example of delusion.
No, it makes total sense that the guy who wrote Gilgamesh thought :
"They're going to write a story about a flood in the future, I better beat them to it."
You're in denial prairiedog
Yeah, me too, especially the stories that were told long before the Bible.
In other words: LOL FAIL.
History is your friend.
FAIL
Isn't Pandora's Box Greek mythology??? I cant remember ever seeing that in the bible..
The theme that a woman was responsible for bringing suffering and death to the whole human race is the same in both.
A true fundie believes that God dictated those events as they happened and if other accounts appear to be older, the dating is wrong, or maybe we just haven't found the original Bible which was surely on the Ark.
Considering everything you cited is older than the bible, no, you're no fucking scholar, that's for fucking sure.
You can't think here. It's data which has to be verified, not discussed. If Gilgamesh is 5000 years old and the Bible 3000, maths don't match, sorry.
Those stories predate the bible!
Therefore the bible is based on those, unless your evil devil buddy decided to counterfit them in advance, which is seething bullshit (yes, seething).
This is an entirely rational thing to think, until you're let grasp just how recent the bible is compared to the myths that predate it.
T-Quaffer:
God, a being that unlike man cannot lie, clearly created the universe with an apparent history for its own alien purposes.
the Aboriginal Dreamtime myths date to some where from 35000 to 100,000 years ago some think they might go back as far as 150,000 years
so that is a miss by at least 33,000 years
epic fail is just not enough
super mega ultra ultimate epic fail times 33,000
All this despite the fact that some of these myths predate the Bible, or existed in regions that weren't originally exposed to Christianity and therefore had no knowledge of the stories inherent therein and, as such, couldn't have "copied...biblical accounts".
*facepalm*
The only similarities between Pandora and Eve were that their Gods fucked them over royally by giving them curiosity, and then tempting them. Hell, at least the Greeks were honest in saying that Pandora was a punishment form the Gods for accepting the gift of fire from Prometheus, as I recall.
IIRC, the Catholic Church's official explanation for all those 'coincidences' between previous myths and the Bible (not only Noah/Gilgamesh, but also Moses/Sargon and Jesus/Horus/Dionysos/Krishna/etc.) is that...
(drum roll)
Satandidit
Yup. The Devil was wily enough to plant false prophets in the past in order to confuse believers now. That's almost as demented as the Rapture... and I'm a Catholic!
If I were to point out to you that those stories were prevalent before the Bible, and in fact, Mesopotamian and Greek cultures influenced the very region in which the Bible was written...might you cling to your fairly reasonable theory of literary influence?
Or would that one just return to dust?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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