May I humbly suggest some other possible causes for the scalzification of American men?
1. Aggro tankgrrls
When the land fills up with aggressively posturing, careerist feminist shrikes on the divorce court warpath, aided and abetted by Cathedral man-haters, the collective response by society’s testes is to ascend behind the sheltering bony plate of the pubis. You could call it the “Junk Tuck and Shuck” theory of increasing faggotry. How this works on a biochemical level is hard to pinpoint, but it makes some intuitive sense that as women gain more cultural power through their own means or a Big Daddy government check, men rationally respond by becoming either smooth talking cads or mewling beta suck-ups. Do women like this state of affairs? Probably not, but as long as men can get the pussy this way, that’s what they’ll give women. The sexual polarity will find its opposing balance, by whatever means necessary.
2. Estrogen in everything
Soy is in everything. So is the effluvium of the Pill. It seems we can’t go a week without some new study touching down with evidence of increased estrogen in our food and water supplies.
3. Lack of a cleansing war/too many men
A culture’s men get soft in the arms of materialist decadence. Never more so than today with so many hindbrain-targeted pleasure stimulators acquired for a relative pittance. Too many men accumulating from a lack of natural (or unnatural) culling means that, thanks to the cosmic directive of female hypergamy, a lot of dispensable, reproductively useless men are piling up. Combine the softness with the uselessness, and it’s a small leap to infer that the male sex would respond, at least at the margins, with a growing acceptance of testosterone-challenged and sexual marketplace-abstaining gayness, broniness, tranniness, and general supine self-flagellating leftoid-ness.
4. Dem friggin fat cows
Maybe male obesity can’t explain much of the trend toward lower T among men, but perhaps FEMALE obesity can explain it. What’s the point of manning up when all your women have womanned down? After all, you don’t have to be much of a man to jerk it to a digital dreamgirl. Fat chicks and porn everywhere have reduced the pressure to find a sexy babe to love, and testosterone levels have responded in kind. What doesn’t get used, atrophies.
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You, sir, win the prize for the hugest scumbag in the world! Most of your post is the usual "I can't get any action, so I hate women." Wow, and do you ever!
You want a cleansing war? Join up and wait. Should be one along any minute, super-soldier.
Oh, and "how this works...is hard to pinpoint..." if you can't pinpoint it, it probably ain't real.
So why not start dating your right hand and save us all the strum und drang.
scalzification?
Made up word
In fact, polygyny for a few does mean no females for the many, who then become predator food. Amazing, CH, how you're so sure you'd be one of the lucky "Alphas". Don't open your back door. There's a gator right out there.
". Do women like this state of affairs? Probably not, but as long as men can get the pussy this way, that’s what they’ll give women."
So then why aren't you supporting this? If men get pussy by supporting this, then you should support it.Plus if they don't like it why are men rewarded for it? You're not very bright CH
My, my... Why, this fellow is just filled to the brim with useful knowledge. I can tell by the cultured, intelligent way he expresses himself. Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Honestly, I think he's really on to something. He should sign up for war, immediately! Just, rush right in there... Go on, no time to waste. Get on in that war zone, see how it treats you. As a real man you should have no problem whatsoever warrin' it up.
I got two things from this:
1. CH seems to believe that the only motivation males have is vaginal sex.
2. CH honestly thinks males need to be "culled" through war or systematic means so that the acquisition of vaginal sex becomes a male "buyer's
market."
Well your brain is clearly never used & has atrophied.
@ Reynardine-John Scalzi, as in Uncle John's bathroom reader?
Not even precipitous mass death among competing males will get him laid, he's just blaming others for his repulsiveness and no woman in her right mind wanting to touch his penis. Freud would have a field day, somewhere along the lines of neurosis brought on by coitus interruptus & excessive masturbation being insufficient libidinal discharge.
@Xenuwuzhere:
Funny that you should bring up Hitler.
This is the same guy who recently claimed that Hitler's genocidal anti-semitism was caused by his being a complete beta when he was attracted to a Jewish girl. He actually said he believed that if Hitler had heard this guy's "Pick up Game" tips, he wouldn't have created the Nazi party.
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I'm sorry, all I'm seeing is endless level of jackassery. Care to explain? Oh wait, that's because you are a jack ass!
On your theory that all girls want masculine men, not the case. Some girls like long haired boys. There's probably a few girls with a fetish for men who dress in women's clothes, too. This amazing [strike]pudding[/strike] concept is called "People have different likes and dislikes, thumbtard."
Learn it.
"Materialist decadence"? Uh, no. My bandmates (Well, excluding Johna. Actually, including her), while not protesting to a tad bit of eye candy, will still actually work to get into a decent relationship. Gayness? Not a problem. Tranniness? Not a problem to be had with transvestites. Leftoid? That's a new one. Did I miss any? gayness, broniness- wait, BRONYNESS?! Fuck the whatting fuck?!!!! Alright, Anon-e-Moose, you're a brony, right? Let's go and murder his sorry lack of a brain. And Sargeant Sprinkles', too.
That last bit? Oh my god, so stupid. I'm not even touching it, it's like being a toon and bathing in Dip.
Jeffy: Just explaining. When Mr. Jessie's Guitarist writes "Fuck", it's when he's mad. If he's not, he'll simply write [EFF!], in reference to Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged. Only if he's really made will he write "fuck"
Just saying.
Scalzi is a feminist. He once wore a dress to raise money for a charity. He posted the picture on his blog, which has a nice item that will explain with further hilarity, and some "chicks are pussifying men" dingbat reposted it with the caption "This is what a feminist looks like". Scalzi dragged the dingbat around the rhetorical ring a few times. and they apparently are now engaged in deeply pathetic attempted taunting. "Look! He's a feminist man so we will call feminist men Scalzis!" I'm sure he's hurt.
Well... a German comic had this to say:
"Was ist am Rindfleisch denn das Schöne
doch nicht das Fleisch, die Östrogene!
Das Zeuch ist wirklich ungewöhnlich
Es macht den Mann der Gattin ähnlich
Sie guckt ihm neidisch auf den Busen
jetzt kann er mit sich selber Schmusen"
lit:
What is the good in beef
not the meat, the estrogen
the stuff is really amazing
turns the husband into a wife
she's eying his tits with envy
now that he cuddles with himself
So... yeah,that is a thing. You are stuff a dumb fucker.
@Reynardine
Can't say I've ever heard of him, but if he gets Vox Day's goat, he's all right in my book.
@Gearhead, Filin De Blanc
I was a North American Fallworm in my past life. Ah, those were the good old days...
Dude, I don't agree with John Scalzi a lot of the time either (he's strongly on the left, I'm politically neutral), but back the fuck up!
CH is unable to fulfill his fantasy of being desired by others, men, women or animals. Therefore, he laments the lack of opportunity to be canon-fodder because his dream has died.
@Jessie's Guitarist
Young Roggie was a perfect blend of Masculine and Feminine as that photo of him you've shared, shows.
...and young David even more so!
Oh, my, young Roger! Big beautiful horseboy! *UNF* BEASTLY VAMP!
@Jessie's Guitarist
Well, yeah...but Roggie in that pic still proves your subsequent point...He was a pretty pony!
Sure, some go on about how he's "ugly" & "weird-looking" but I disagree. His younger self was a beautiful, vampish horseboy.
Those chocolate tresses...those plump lips....
Oh it's just Roissy in D.C.
A.k.a. James C. Weidmann...
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Oh, but now he's Chateau Heartiste and misogynist (and racist) as ever. He even links to American Renaissance on his blog. How quaint. Oh, and Vox Popoli , natch.
1. I know a lot of feminists, but I don't recognize this description in any of them. All of us like men (some of us are male), and most divorces over here are solved outside court. If you can only be self-assured with women when they are downtrodden and forced to obey you, then the problem lies with YOU. Real Men appreciate strong independent women. I haven't seen any sign of your "state of affairs", sorry.
2. Yes, there's probably an excess of estrogen in Nature, due to man's overuse of chemicals.
3. There are several wars going on all around the world; Syria, Palestine, Iraq, large parts of Africa including Egypt, for example.
4. Huh?
@Frank: nope. CH is a Vox Day groupie. Vox Day has a hate-on at John Scalzi, and Scalzi ran a charity whereby he and his fans donated 5 bucks every time Theodore Beale mentioned him (they raised 50K in less than a week). Beale's a (rather unsuccessful) science fiction writer who got bounced from the SWFA by being a hateful, bigoted, misogynistic doosh after unsuccessfully running for the presidency of the organization. Thus, (scalzification)
The rest of the comment is random, enraged flailing at stuck-up (he thinks) women who won't give him the time of day, women he thinks are too ugly, and are therefore beneath his standards, the phytoestrogens in soy which are supposed to be one possible cause of low-T in men, and men who the commenter thinks are soft, fat and weak because they've been feminized and haven't been forced into a war which would help kill the unfit. In other words, he's a full-service MRA, social-darwinist kook.
"Dem friggin fat cows"
Typed by reaching out over his beer gut.
Heavy females throughout history have been regarded as sexier and more desirable than thin ones because at a time when most people did not get enough to eat, their extra weight was a sign of health, wealth and good nutrition, and thus, fertility.
Obese women also served as trophies for their men, and still do in some third world countries, because their weight indicates his wealth and ability to provide for her.
Men's desire for extreme, pre-pubescent-looking thinness in women is a very recent occurance. There was no rampant anorexia or bulimia prior to the 1970s.
By your logic, women would have had "low E" for centuries, given all the fat old men many of them have been forced to marry against their will. Looks like you'll have to blame your impotence on something else.
The only John Scalzi book I've read (well, had read to me- how can I resist a Star Trek parody audiobook narrated by Wil Wheaton?) is Redshirts, which was a great story marred by having every single line of dialogue followed by "he said".
But if he annoys scumbags like this, I'm going to order his entire back catalogue off Amazon right now.
"... a lot of dispensable, reproductively useless men are piling up.
So, you're in favor of gays in the military as they are patently dispensible and reproductively useless?
@ Jessie's Guitarist- I have 3 Uncle Johns. My personal favorite is the Uncle John Plunges into NJ; a simple nod to my favorite state. It makes my home state look a bit less stupid & offers a some proof that we are not all Jersey Shore clones; or mobsters.
Great Cthulhu I hated that damn show!
General supine self-flagellating leftoid-ness sound like fun.
I'm going to try it, this evening, in the privacy of my own home.
@Jessie's Guitarist
I wasn't aware of the yecchy, anti-woman details of centaur mythology. My bad.
Roggie's a re-defined, good guy centaur!
Fantasy beings get redefined all the time. Zombies weren't always walking corpses. Vampires weren't always sexy beings who combusted or sparkled in sunlight. Mermaids weren't always cute, sympathetic, Ariel types & Faeries weren't always pretty little winged Tinkerbells.
Roggie's a horse...a SEXY horse! He may be cranky, moody & stuff but his heart's in the right place....a rocker & an activist! Even as a geezer, he's handsome. His appearance, whenever old or young, is an acquired taste.
But everyone would agree that young Syd & young David were TEH SEX!
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(Young Syd & young David...being young & luscious)
Also, I love Uncle John's Bathroom Readers !
Alpha male mentality + couldn't-fuck-so-I-rant mindset much? I've heard enough misogynist rhetoric to pretty much not care; these are but harmless Internet Tough Guys in my opinion.
"general supine self-flagellating leftoid-ness." I laughed at that for 5 minutes straight.
By the time I got past the first sentence, I intuited that this would be an incoherent rant... maybe that's because it is.
@ SpukiKitty:
If you read but-I-am-Roger-Waters, you scared him a bit. And I disagree about Gilmour and Syd. But I know about faeries and vampires and zombies David Bowie and their mythology's pasts.
@ The Crimson Ghost:
I've got like five of 'em. Actually, I was talking to someone today about 9/11 and I mentioned if it weren't for the Y2K Bug, the economy could have crashed, as in fear of everything being deleted New York set up some extra networks, so when the towers crashed it stayed up. Something I got from The World's Gone Crazy.
'The lack of a cleansing war' is the problem? Well, I suppose the Blood God does need to be appeased now and then, it's just a shame that you think war is needed to get rid of men rather than so that the spilled blood of the fallen can empower the forces of chaos.
BrianX: Huh, my opinion of Eric S. Raymond has dropped even further. I knew he want a bit right-wing crazy, but associating with MRAs and PUAs?
In other words, you, like all mysogynists, can't demonise women without unvoluntarily demonise men in the same process.
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