Strawman arguments are valid arguments.
Moreover, I suggest that it is you that does not understand evolution: I have thought it through!
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Strawman arguments are valid arguments. Right, and hijacking planes and flying them into buildings is a perfectly OK battle tactic.
Moreover, I suggest that it is you that does not understand evolution: I have thought it through! Just no.
I don't think they are even valid in the logical sense; a strawman argument is, by definition, not addressing the actual point of your opponent, so no logical consequence can follow, as the premises of the argument are not the same.
I have thought it through!
Sorry, that's not enough. You have to actually study it enough to understand it. Thinking in circles around your misconceptions doesn't count.
I'm seeing this more and more lately; fundamentalists are now declaring logic itself invalid. They're doing it openly. They're only too happy to admit that they refuse rationality. In which case, nobody can possibly convince them of anything, nor is any conversation with them valid or appropriate. They're outrightly rejecting reason itself in favor of... well, whatever's left over. I would call it insanity.
Asuming you´re not a troll, I think you don´t understand what a strawman really is. If you kick a puching ball that has a picture of your enemy, you´re not defeating your enemy, no matter how much you want it to personify it. So, I asume that, since you don´t know what strawman argument is, you don´t know what evolution is either(or are you going to tell me that you know it better than Darwin?)
"Strawman arguments are valid arguments."
Indeed. When one is discussing scarecrows, strawman agruments are appropriate.
"Moreover, I suggest that it is you that does not understand evolution:"
I have a firm grasp of the ToE basics. However, I've seen your posts before and I KNOW that you have essentially no understanding of the ToE or anything else to do with the sciences.
"I have thought it through!"
I suggest that you do not have an understanding of thought.
"Strawmen arguments are valid arguments" and the little pig that made his house out of straw is not running for his life either. Well okay, both are fairy tales, kinda like your understanding of evolution.
Strawman arguments aren't valid because straw cannot think.
Now, either (a) this strawman argument isn't valid, in which case strawman arguments aren't valid, or (b) this strawman argument is valid, in which case strawman arguments aren't valid.
Hence strawman arguments aren't valid. QED.
Dang, it looks like the thread has been removed.
Shame, because this post was made regarding me. yes, I was the one accused of not understanding evolution! :D
I've lost my claim to fame....
Strawman arguments are valid arguments.
Well in that case, you blend babies to death and drink the juice. That makes you evil.
“Strawman arguments are valid arguments.”
No, they’re not.
Attacking a Strawman means that instead of fighting a capable opponent, you go uot and beat up a scarecrow. You’re attacking a fake, that’s stood up just to beat up on.
“Moreover, I suggest that it is you that does not understand evolution: I have thought it through!”
If you defend strawmen arguments, there’s quite a bit you don’t understand. I’m going to lean towards your critic, sight unseen.
What I will bet is that when you say you ‘thought it through’ you thought about the consequences of evolution if it’s true.
So, fact or fiction, you reject Evolution because it teaches kids that there’s no god, or that we’re just animals, or that the Bible isn’t literally true.
How close am I?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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