Mrs. Debbie #fundie

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

All of the rock, etc., has the basic drum beat that is used by the Satan-worshipping tribes of Africa. If you were to study it out you would realize it. Did you know that "rock and roll" got its beginnings from the black African culture? THAT is how the beat was introduced into our current ungodly music - "Christian" rock included.

When Moses and Aaron were on Mt. Sinaii they heard what sounded like war in the camp. Turned out it was "music" - a "music" that typified idol worship - something that was totally against the music they knew as godly. When they came down and saw what was going on they were appalled to see the people dancing sensually in all manner of undress. Where did the people learn of this music? In Egypt when they were in captivity! Hmmm....and where exactly is Egypt?? Wonder of wonders - Africa.

(Just for those of you who will try to condemn me for being racist.........some of my best friends have been black. I have nothing against them. Unfortunately the majority of their race has made a bad name for the ones who take care of their families and work hard.)

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old comment by UberLutheran

"And Mrs. Debbie later explains that syncopation is the devil. Followed by this gem!
"We skipped the syncopation part of our daughter's piano lessons........ Told the teacher (who was unsaved, byt the way) that we did not agree with that type of music and that he should skip that part....that she was learning to play for church, not the world." Well, that now excludes any music written after Gregorian Chant, including all the music of the trecento, the Ars Nova, and the 14th century; all of the English, German and Italian Renaissance composers, all Baroque composers; all the Rococo and all the classical composers (including Beethoven, since syncopation and the unexpected accent or the signatures of his music) certainly every single one of the Romantic, Impressionistic and early 20th century composers and almost every single hymn ever composed. Maybe Philip Glass will compose something for her daughter... zzzzzzzzzzz...

old comment by Sideshow Bob

Bro. Randy jumped in with some verses about the avoidance of worldliness. The general idea is that rock music is -necessarily- worldly and a compromise with the world, regardless of the reason for its use.
I know that the Lord's people shouldn't be conformed to the world, but do you have any idea how broad the "worldly" brush these fellows are using is? By their application, -anything at all that is even remotely popular- is worldly and therefore conforming. Disciple seemed to have the grasp of that fact, at the very least. Wingnut came in to challenge it further, only to be on the wrong end of the Hammer of Justice. It's sad, really, that Wingnut could get banned for that.

old comment by Blaque

"...Satan-worshipping tribes of Africa. If you were to study it out you would realize it..."
Wait, what? You realize that a lot of Africans are Christian or Muslim now adays (admitedly, often introduced or forced by outsiders), but...what?!?! I thinkt he thing that utterly disgusts me is the shear arrogance, vitriolic hatred, and bias in the sense that because the likes of pygmies in Africa, or the Masai "worship Satan" because they happen to worship their own religions and have a better sense of music then she does makes me sick. And the whoel "Some of my best friends are X" thing seems to me to be the ultimate sign of being a racist. And stuff, I guess.

old comment by Puck

No throbbing soul-drums for you fundies, then. Your egos are too fragile. Thus you should hereby be restricted to slide whistles and kazoos.
On a positive note, perhaps the insubordinate wench Debbie has given us a valuable clue for a fundie repellant. I'm shopping for bongos to carry with me... The *minority* of African-Americans haven't yet learned how to act...but the majority are righteous vibrant people. You betray not only your bigotry, wench Debbie, but also your ignorance and gullibility. Turn off you TV and go out into the world. And while you're at it, tell boy Randy to kiss the big one. He's a pathetic schmuck with delusions of power.

old comment by Morpheus

Mrs. Debbie wrote:
Just for those of you who will try to condemn me for being racist.........some of my best friends have been black. I have nothing against them. Unfortunately the majority of their race has made a bad name for the ones who take care of their families and work hard.

See the stuff in red? That's the racist bit. You're implying that most blacks are lazy and don't take care of their children, and that your "friends" are the only exceptions. This is what prejudiced people do. They believe and perpetuate negative stereotypes about a group of people. Anyone who defies this stereotype is either ignored or claimed to be somehow "different."

old comment by Brian X

Re Esjeur's comment:

I always thought there was something inherently racist about the "Mozart effect" anyway -- it appeals to a certain cultural snobbery that just happens to idolize European classical music as the highest form of musical expression. Given that jazz in particular has many of the same properties that "Mozart effect" groupies idolize in classical music, it would seem a no-brainer that jazz would probably have the same effects. But nobody ever tested Coltrane against Beethoven, did they?

Of course, the best most of these people can manage for church music is extremely trite adult contemporary. I feel safe in saying that any of the great names of classical and baroque music would leave them quite lost.

old comment by DinDC

Ms. Debbie (I AM sorry) MRS. Debbie:

Please forgive me for messing up your proper title. I guess I am just one of those East Coast Effetes!

Anyway, your post led me to do a little research on your family tree. I encountered no difficulty in so doing; the fact that all of your extended family resides in the same trailer park facilitated my quest.

Did you know, for example, that your parents are not only siblings, but also first cousins?

Oh, before I forget I was saddened to hear about the passing of your grandmother/great-aunt/aunt/third cousin/half-sister Billie Mae. I understand that she was one of the best hog callers in the county.

Knowing that you do not believe in genetics (or any of the other sciences, not to mention hygiene), I am rather concerned about your family’s gene pool. The bottom line is that there is a lot recessive stuff going on and that can lead to idiocy and toothlessness.

This is just a suggestion: Talk to Ma and Pa (or as they are known at Sunday Service “Brother” and “Sister”) and persuade them to diversify the family tree. I, for one, am firmly convinced that Ol’ Skeeter, the bloodhound, is an excellent candidate to inject some new DNA in bloodline.

It’s just a thought.

I am not really going to get into the whole Music Thing you so ably discussed in your post. Suffice it to say that the complexity of the kazoo is more than likely too much for you to worry your little head about.

Anyway, I bet all those black folk, whom you have considered to be your friends, laugh behind your flat cracker ass and wish for the ultimate prolapse of your uterus, thereby rendering it incapable of crapping out any more of your in-bred cretins.

Before I forget Please give my regards to your husband/brother/second cousin twice removed, Billy Earl. I understand he is up for parole next month.

Yours,

DinDC

old comment by POSW

Freddie Mercury, a gay man, would have something to say about this.

"And then I saw Him in the crowd
A lot of people had gathered round Him
The beggers shouted and the lepers called Him
The old man said nothing
He just stared about Him
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down

Then came a man before His feet he fell
Unclean said the leper and rang his bell
Felt the palm of a hand touch his head
Go now go now you're a new man instead
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down

It all began with the three wise men
Followed a star took them to Bethelehem
And made it heard throughout the land
Born was the leader of man
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down to see the Lord Jesus
All going down"

old comment by FMG

Some of my best friends have been black? Have they stopped or something?

The basic drum beat of a fair section of rock was influenced by a fair few sources. Rock music had its origins in blues, blue grass and jazz. Indeed its greatest proponents were black. The fluidity of music is pre "black" music though. Syncopation became part of normal common music after jazz. However the average piano player played simple music. A concert pianist who would play something say turkisher marsch by Mozart would have to indulge in early syncopation. Every musical culture has the "dropped beat" or musical shennanigans that become syncopation and is a vital part of improvisation which is a talent all musicians need.

Its just that choiral music tends to be extremely rigid. Except for welsh choiral which tends to have large amounts of syncopation due to the nature of the welsh language. And the welsh are known for their choirs... Their church choirs. And to my knowledge they are very white... Stravinsky and Bartok to my knowledge used syncopation quite heavily in their work and so did freaking Bach. Its a vital part of learning to play the violin since the instrument works by time signature variation since its regarded as a high skill ability to drop a note and change time within a piece.

The Beat? The beat is a sectioning of music into ordered chunks to allow you timing. Jazz can be argued as a music style with variable beats but even rock and rap use very solid structured beats. Its mainly for timing. Hence the value of good drummers.

Wouldn't the israelis also be "black" on accounts of having just come from egypt where generations and generations of them have just lived? And the egyptians aren't very black. The majority of their race live quite happily and indeed take care of their families. Infact a fair few of them are of greek descent.

old comment by Swede

Humans like music beats that more or less corresponds to our heart beat. So what?

The black Africans did not ask to be brought to the Colonies in the Americas in chains, and worked to the death to build a few white men's fortunes. One way to try and stay sane was to sing when they worked. That's one source for the rock and roll.

Many of the people in Egypt are arabs, rather than black.
People in Finland and people in Turkey don't look or act the same, but they all live in Europe.

The majority of their race? Nah, you're not racist at all!!! [/irony]
The fact that you do make a difference, and more or less say they were bad because they were black (not because they were poor and prohibited from living as equals in your society), THAT makes you a racist.

Mrs. Debbie #fundie teens-4-christ.org

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