WarrioroftheFather: "I'm thinking about leaving some Bible tracts all around my area.
I wanna put them in people's mail boxes at midnight when no one can see me."
[a poster replies: "Although it's a nice thought, you cannot put tracts into mailboxes because it's against the law. Mailboxes are designated for United States Postal Service Mail & that's it.]
WarrioroftheFather: "Wow... Your going to let Man's law get in the way of God's Salvation for others. [shocked smiley]"
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That part aside--it's a pretty frequently-ignored law that I've seen, I've seen people put leaflets in them plenty of times--I wonder about the ones who think that they can *evangelize* by sneaking little bits of paper into people's mailboxes and then running away without actually talking to them. Why on earth would that work?
I wanna put them in people's mail boxes at midnight when no one can see me.
You go ahead and do that and I'll hope you live in one of those states where people sleep with guns and wait for noises out of the ordinary.
Dio Fa: As I understand it (and I'm not an American citizen nor am I in favour of general unregulated gun ownership), the Second Amendment gives you the right to have the gun, but if you shoot it and hit someone, you'd still have to justify that it was in self-defense (and even then you could get prison time).
Eh.
This would be about how I'd react if it was something that I believed in.
Well, I'd like to think I'd be less condescending.
Man's law will get you thrown in jail. God's law, at most, will cause your fellow zealots to riot over "persecution," thus landing them in jail in accordance with Man's law.
Pretty clear winner there.
@ dpareja,
I believe you are right with respect American gun laws. (I'm not an American citizen either)
However, a person could do something similar to WotF what an ex-girlfriend's father did to me when I first met him. The girl's father sat in his kitchen, cleaning his policeman's sidearm with a scowl on his face. I got the message.
"at midnight when no one can see me."
If you feel compeled to do something under the guise of darkness, it's more than likely wrong. Unless you are Batman, of course.
And you're flaunting man's laws while hiding your crime in the darkness? That reminds me of something, but I can't quite recall what.
Also consider that it's not like your fellow Americans haven't ever heard your story. You seriously have to be living under a rock in the middle of nowhere from birth to not have. Plus there are other perfectly legal places to leave them, but I would encourage you not to waste the paper.
First: 2nd the "Render unto Caesar..."
Second: Yeah, why don't you ask Kent Hovind how that view's working out for him?
"Wow... Your going to let Man's law get in the way of God's Salvation for others."
Try reading Romans 13:1-7. Now, go be a good little Christian and follow the rules like you're supposed to.
On a side note, it never fails to astonish me as to how little these people know about a book they all claim to follow to the letter.
John 3
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
It intrigues me that the OP feels the need to do this secretly, and under cover of darkness. If he was truly concerned with 'spreading the word', why not hand out the tracts openly, and back them up with his own testimony?
Sure, you're such a friggin' coward you have to leave your garbage in people's mailboxes under cover of darkness. If you were proud of it, why not walk up to people in the daylight and actually talk to them? Yeah, you'd annoy the hell out of a lot of them, but still, it's not as cowardly as your idea.
Second, the idea that you are actually going to "save" somebody by sticking a tract in their mailbox is ludicrous. The likelihood of that happening is nearly nil. You are killing trees and wasting paper for no good reason.
Third, I agree with whoever it was who said that everybody's heard your Jesus story anyway. It's not news to anybody (let alone "good news"). Really--we've all heard it. There are simply some of us who don't give a rip. I know that is hard for you to understand. We believe in other gods, or no gods, or maybe we're just not sure. But we've all heard the Jesus story already.
^^^
You are killing trees and wasting paper for no good reason.
No-one on RR gives a tinker's cuss about the environment. According to their little death cult the worlds doomed anyway and anything that hastens the end's a good thing.
Later on another RRetard points out that "The only time it's ok to break the law is if that law goes in direct opposition to God's word."
OK, 'fess up - which one of you scallywags is this "fracturedInfinity"?
Sneaking out under cover of darkness to litter up the place? Is that the fundie take on "witness protection"?
It seems you're too ashamed of your religion to stand up boldly and share your faith in broad daylight. Jesus would be so proud ... not.
[a poster replies: "Although it's a nice thought, you cannot slam planes into buildings and kill thousands of people because it's against the law. Planes are designated for flying people from one place to another & that's it.]
WarrioroftheFather: "Wow... Your going to let Man's law get in the way of God's Salvation for others. [shocked smiley]"
Same thinking - different religious delusion.
A better question is: if you're the one supporting the word of such a mighty, omniscient and omnipotent entity known to exist [you are really really sure], then why are you sneaking about in the night, like a common thug, in order to spread what is merely guerrilla propaganda?
I wanna put them in people's mail boxes at midnight when no one can see me."
For someone claiming to be a "warrior" you're pretty cowardly. When I was a fundie, I stood up on a street corner and preached the word to all who would listen. No one did, but at least I had the balls to do it in public.
Uh, yes. You're in my yard. At midnight. Putting something in my mailbox.
A) My state is very liberal about my right to defend my property.
B) In the dark I thought you looked kinda Middle Eastern and could be a terrorist. And I would have sworn you had a bomb in your hands.
C) I dispatch you with a load of buck shot.
D) Oops.
One less fundie to harass me on the weekends.
Yay!
WarrioroftheFather: "I'm thinking about leaving some Bible tracts all around my area.
And you wonder why people cross the road when they see you coming. It's not because you are persecuted, it's because you are annoying.
I wanna put them in people's mail boxes at midnight when no one can see me.
Yes, by all means, go commit a federal crime. Is it just me or does WotF seem scared to have to defend of justify his faith to someone else, in public no less.
Wow... Your going to let Man's law get in the way of God's Salvation for others
You won't be saving too many souls from the inside of a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison now will you?
If you are doing something illegal, under cover of darkness and at an hour when most people are asleep, you are every bit the coward that those who kill others in the name of God with their faces completely covered are.
Since when cant people put stuff in your mail box? Although if it stops fundies from shoving shit in my mail box (which immediately hits the recycle bin, if any fundies are reading this) I'm all for letting them think this.
Edit:
Huh, I missed the at midnight bit. Such cowards. Oh, and it wakes my dogs up and I come to the door with a baseball bat and will scream at you for doing such a stupid thing, so could you keep it to normal hours?
I've heard a little bit about this thing you call "God's Salvation," (although when I first read it, I saw salivation and decided that there really wasn't much difference between the two...)
"God's Salvation," as I understand it, is a place with no pleasures, emotional or physical, but nothing more than subservience and praise of someone who has proven himself to be petty, vindictive, spiteful, arrogant, wrathful, overzealous, and a host of other adjectives that are generally less than complimentary.
With that in mind, why would I even want "God's Salvation"?
Since you probably didn't read Romans or 1 Peter, I'll leave you with a quote said by the Man Himself:
"Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God."
MAN LAW:
Anyone who puts tracts in mailboxes under cover of the night shall warrant complete and utter ridicule.
How Warrior envisions this scene:
Husband: "Hey honey, I checked the mailbox this morning and there's a postcard. From Jesus. There's no stamp on it, and it arrived in the mail."
Wife: "It's a miracle. We must go to church and repent. Oh thank you Jesus for your messenger."
What really happened:
Husband: "God dammit, there's some more Jesus shit in the mailbox. And whoever left it threw a Twix wrapper on the ground and raped the cat."
Wife: "Again? Poor Miss Puss. I bet it's that weirdo who calls himself 'Warrior' and stares through the hedges when I'm out sunbathing. Call the police."
@ Syb: It seems like IRL trolling.
"Ha, I said something and then left! Now you can't defend yourself properly!!"
More like, "Hey, stuff I can light on fire."
If people feel the need to do something under cover of darkness it's a pretty good bet that their conscience is telling them it's wrong.
But in the UK at least anyone can put any advertising stuff they want through your letterbox, not just the Royal Mail. Free newspapers particularly irritate me, I have a sign saying 'no free newspapers' and they still shove two wastes of a perfectly good tree through it each week. At least the pizza/curry/kebab shop flyers are only a sheet of A5.
@ Giveitaday
You won't be saving too many souls from the inside of a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison now will you?
Not when one realizes how chock-a-block full of christians the prisons are already.
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edit: Oops, that was I, Philbert McAdamia
Please do it, and get arrested for messing with a mail box, which is a federal offense, and dare to whine about persecution!
WarrioroftheFather. WankeroftheFather more like. Anyway, I think you should leave as many tracts as you possibly can in as many places as you can get to. Keeps you occupied and we love 'em. Athough, I hope you don't mind the alterations and additions we make to them before we we redistribute. Ha ha ha!
So, you can not stand for what you are doing?
Everybody in the US knows about the Lord, anyone who wants to know more can seek information. You going around pushing info on people who don't want it just makes them even more antagonistic. It does not serve its purpose. So stop with the pushing, ok.
What exactly is the point? Do you really think you're going to convert anyone that way?
Most of your tracts will go in the garbage. The only people who might keep them will be believers already.
Why waste time and paper?
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