Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water?
God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't.
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So basically your argument for the existence of god is that water exists? That's a really weak argument there buddy.
Also, why is hydrogen capitalized and oxygen isn't?
The Universe has not ended yet, there might come smarter men in a century or two.
Oh, and we need your god to come down to Earth and show us his experiment, we also need his article for the peer-reviewing.
You fundies are really reaching now, aren't you? Guess you don't realize that you have to prove that God exists and actually brings hydrogen & oxygen together instead of it being a naturally occurring process.
And I can do it. All I have to do is pull a cold beer out of the fridge and sit outside on a hot summer day. The hydrogen & oxygen combine on the outside of the bottle.
Fuel cell, bitch. Helped to power the Saturn V rocket to take man to the moon.
But you probably don't believe that happend either.
Four Words : Space Shuttle Main Engines
From : http://science.howstuffworks.com/space-shuttle1.htm
"The main engines provide the remainder of the thrust (29 percent) to lift the shuttle off the pad and into orbit.
The engines burn liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, which are stored in the external fuel tank (ET), at a ratio of 6:1. They draw liquid hydrogen and oxygen from the ET at an amazing rate, equivalent to emptying a family swimming pool every 10 seconds! The fuel is partially burned in a pre-chamber to produce high pressure, hot gases that drive the turbo-pumps (fuel pumps). The fuel is then fully burned in the main combustion chamber and the exhaust gases (water vapor) leave the nozzle at approximately 6,000 mph (10,000 km/h). Each engine can generate between 375,000 and 470,000 lb (1,668,083 to 2,090,664 N) of thrust; the rate of thrust can be controlled from 65 percent to 109 percent maximum thrust. The engines are mounted on gimbals (round bearings) that control the direction of the exhaust, which controls the forward direction of the rocket. "
"God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't. "
Antoine Lavoisier did it over two centuries ago. And he wasn't even the first to do it. His contribution (working with his wife) was to split water and recombine it (and other reversible reactions) with such precision that he was able to show that matter was not created nor destroyed in chemical reactions. Thus, the law of conservation of matter.
Try paying more attention in science class. This stuff's actually very interesting. At least, it is if you value knowledge.
I'm guessing this fucking genius here never took high school science classes? We did that in the ninth grade when we electrolysed water, let the gases inflate a balloon and then ignited it. Bingo! Water.
EDIT: I went and had a look at the thread. No matter how many times it is explained to him, this retard doesn't get it and thinks there is something magical to the combination of H2 and O2 to make water. Terminally stupid this one.
What, he didn't have a lighter? Hydrogen and oxygen burn with water as the output. When the Hindenburg went up in flames, the remains were charred debris and a water-soaked field.
Hmm... your argument is weak. Do your side a favor and shut up.
I have. Filled a balloon with 2 parts H and one part O, and then poked it with a match on the end of a metre stick. Wasn't quite long enough, so I got a cool UV burn on my arm with the shadows of my hairs flashed on the skin.
"Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water?
God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't."
General Motors are working on the Hy-Wire, the first car powered by a hydrogen fuel cell:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Hy-wire
Whilst somewhat different in design to the prototype driven by James May in "Top Gear" several years ago, the principle's the same: a chassis with the hydrogen tank, powerplant, motors, control systems & backup batteries in the chassis, and bolt-on interchangeable body types with just an interface cable connecting the two parts.
The Hy-Wire's hydrogen fuel cell exhaust emits just water.
And yet God can't create his own money. Or print his own Bibles. Your call, JRS.
Ok, no man is able to lift a concrete of building of 22 stores and, however, they exist. Your point?
Right on, then. Give me a sample of hydrogen, a sample of oxygen, and a match on a long stick, please.
I'm pretty sure everyone who ever took high school chemistry did that.
Oh, wait. Homeskuling. That explains it.
Two words, Sparky: Fuel Cells
Now go home and stick your finger in an electrical outlet like a good little dimwit.
N.
So dim ... And yet ... it still manages ... to continue breathing....
It's almost enough to make one start believing in miracles. Worse, it's almost enough to make one start to doubt the efficacy of Darwinian evolution.
Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water?
You want us to do high school chemistry? Um, okay.
God can.
Okay, then have him show us. That shouldn't be too hard for him, right?
But the smartest man ever to live can't.
Who is the smartest man to ever live and why can't he replicate a reaction that high school students can make? Is he unable to find a source of hydrogen or is chemistry just not his thing?
For all I know, that may be true. My 7th grade chemistry teacher, who showed us how to do it, was a woman.
High school chemistry. During electrolysis of water, we were supposed to make the test tube full of hydrogen pop, and the smoldering wooden splint relight in the tube of oxygen, which my best friend and I did. We decided, wouldn't it be fun to mix both in one tube, hold the flame over it, and see what happens? POW! Like a firecracker. The teacher knew what we had done, and seemed amused when he came over to us. So we made water. So has the space shuttle.
Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water?
God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't
Here are some water making machines which mixes hydrogen and oxygen and they are all man made:
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What was it you said about mixing hydrogen and oxygen again?
@Doubting Thomas
You're almost as unenlightened as he is, water vapor in the air forming condensation is the creation of water through hydrogen and oxygen, it's simply the change from water vapor (a gas) into water (a liquid).
Ah, and to the fundie, look up hydrogen fuel cell or electrolysis or any other number of things, in fact, get a 9v batter, 2 steel spoons, some copper wire, a jar, a quart of water, and some salt, throw the water in the jar, pour in some salt, until you see that it isn't desolving anymore, attach the wires to the steel spoons, attach one end of each wire to opposite sides of the batter, put the spoons in the saltwater, make sure they dont touch, now you have hydrogen and oxygen and hydrochloric acid if you used most tapwater in the US (it'll look kinda like steam) so grab your lighter and play god :)
@Doubting Thomas
>>pull a cold beer out of the fridge and sit
Afraid not mate. That's water vapor condensing on the bottle.
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Oh, the humanity...
Derp?
The argument used to be,
JRS reminds me of the genious that claimed that we dont know how rainbows are made, and that gawd makes them. Cant be explained, but they are there......something to that effect.
Making water out of hydrogen and water is easy: just set the hydrogen on fire.
BOOM, large explosion of water molecules. Then just cool the water molecules until they reach a liquid state.
I just created water, therefore A GOD AM I!
@Doctor Whom
"Someone in the thread called troll."
Now why doesn't that surprise me?
BTW, what do you think of Matt Smith as the new Doctor? And if you haven't seen the 3rd episode yet, you're going to love the updated, more colourful & beefed-up Daleks.
Actually, it's been done. Many times. It can be done with electricity. It's just cost-prohibitive, so we can't use it to make sure that no one ever gets dehydrated again. Also, we need that oxygen.
JRS is not a Poe. We at the BCSE in the UK have come across him numerous times before. He owns a Yahoo group called Debunkingevolutionism where he posts under various names and "debates" with himself. He endless repeats himself and has been doing so for years. He used to troll all over the place under the name Flubber1947.
He baiscally stopped trolling a couple of years back but seems to have restarted over the last month.
He must now be around 22 years old and appears to have been homeschooled. Amongst his claims is that he is a former Cold War CIA operative and author of military books which reside in the Library of Congress (they don't, needless to say). He's a complete fantasist. Quick frankly he should be in an institution of some sort. You can't debate with him because he's mad. Utterly arrogant as well.
To be fair it's not like you're making drinkable water right then and there, just vapor. This guy probably can't visualize the whole thing because he's kind of crazy so you should try a little harder to get him to understand rather than freaking out like a bunch of retarded primates. Then again "smart" people aren't known for their people skills, they love to satisfy "dumb" people's need for a fight.
How do you people say these things, no, you even TYPE THESE THINGS OUT and POST THEM before even considering doing a half-second's research to see if what you're about to say is absolutely retarded or not.
I make water all the time in the morning. And that process usually also includes a very good book or magazine to keep me preoccupied as I work my mysterious Deifying ways on the john. :D
*Beep! Beep! Beeeeeeeep!* Gotta go... I must away to check on the results of me having employed electricity converted into heatwaves producing a controlled but finely tuned temperature in an equally controlled atmosphere in order to prepare some solidified nutrition for my glorious "Godly" being/body to sustain it's existence in the universe...
Translation for fundies: I'm making burritos and I better keep an eye on the microwave so I can see if they're done and eat them soon.... NAHM NAHM NAHM! :P
I don't know what's funnier (or sadder, depending on how you look at it). The fact that JRS refuses to see what the other posters are showing him, or the fact that he keeps insisting that making water has something to do with biological evolution. Water is not alive! It is not biological, and it does not evolve.
Any species of any living creature is only behaving in a certain way to pursue their own good, and if a member of any species finds sustenance in a new environment, it will try to be fruitful in this new place even if this means its offspring may become more primitive. When a species can no longer be fruitful in an environment, it may cease to exist, and a new and different species may take its place to do a needed work.
Let me see you take milk, and chocolate to make chocolate milk?
God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't.
Oh wait....
Electrolysis of water. I did it in 10th grade. It breaks water down into gaseous hydogen and oxygen. After the part where two tubes are filled with each, my friend and I filled one with both gasses, and passed a flame across the top. BANG! Hydrogen explosion. Lucky for me, holding the tube, it didn't shatter, but it got the class's attention. Does this make me God, or at least the smartest man in the world, making water in a classroom in 1984?
Do these people even think to look up and see if we can do stuff before they run their mouths saying we can't?
Nowadays you can't even say "Only God can make life from scratch". Man has done that too. Just a matter of time before we can terraform planets and put intelligent life on it and tell them we're God.
@Tempus
JRS + 'Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water? God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't.' =
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(emphasis added):
'Arsole, also called arse nole '
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsole
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So, according to JRS, I'm God?
BOW BEFORE ME, MAGGOTS!!!
You, good sir, FAIL CHEMISTRY NOW AND FOREVER, IN SAECULA SAECULORUM, AMEN!
Oxygen + a hydrocarbon + a spark = Carbon Dioxide, Water and Heat.
So yeah in tern, humans have technically been taking hydrogen and oxygen and making water for longer than we can remember. We just call it; FIRE!
With the power to combine these two elements, I will be Divine!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsole
"Let me see you take Hydrogen, and oxygen to make water?
God can. But the smartest man ever to live can't."
We did that at school, during Chemistry class. The fact we had to move to outside, in the middle of the playground - and stood well back when performing said experiment - should tell you something.
I did so. Therefore I'm God? You said it, JRS, I didn't!
@Schuey
"interesting note: My friend is currently writing a paper on the Aromaticity of Arsole"
Does it smell of Farts ?! X3
This statement by you is saying the imaginary deity you worship, for which absolutely no evidence exists, made water. You didn't put your opinion in the form of a hypothesis - water exists because god made it - because you know it's a null hypothesis based on zero evidence just assumptions.
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