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Originally Posted by RaptureReadyGirl82
How disgusting! They are wasting their taxpayer's money on sex change operations! I'm sorry but that just totally disgusts me! People need to be happy with the sex that God gave them! To me, anyone who wants a sex change operation is either possessed or seriously mentally ill.
Actually yes, they are mentally ill, literally. Also homosexuality, according to professionals, is caused by mental illness. So our leaders that are not fit to lead are making these choices for us. I'm very sorry that our leaders in Canada are lacking in tact and sane judgement.
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"Also homosexuality, according to professionals, is caused by mental illness."
The APA says otherwise.
And fortunately for Canadian trans people, the fact that you think that GRS is disgusting counts for shit all.
First one: Mental illness or not, it is still painful to feel like you are a member of a sex that you are physically not, and that it is socially unacceptable for you to behave as. And, I am not quite certain how the taxpayers are involved in such a surgery, or that such surgeries are common enough for you to bitch about them. Also, just because they disgust you personally does not make them inherently wrong.
Second one: transgender and homosexuality are not synonymous, and homosexuality stopped being considered a mental illness over 50 years ago. If anyone is lacking in tact and judgment, I have two guesses, and they have nothing to do with your Canadian leaders...
I'm fucking proud our country pays for this therapy for those who need it. We all start out as female, and sometimes the process of genderization or whatever gets screwed up. Oh how evil we are, to alleviate suffering and bring happiness into sad lives.
Which professionals? Names, please, and the studies they did to make their determinations would be good, too.
Homosexuality is not a mental illness. Hell even Freud thought we were all naturally bisexual and that homo/hetro sexuality was caused by environmental factors. It was removed from the DMV in 1973.
And I have no problem with Ontario covering this, other than it plays into other issues I have with the medical system.
How insane! They are wasting their lives waiting for a 2000-year-old dead guy to come back and beam them up to heaven! I'm sorry but that just sounds completely ignorant to me! People need to be happy with the world God has given them! To me, anyone obsessing over the Rapture is either deluded ore seriously mentally ill.
I love it when they, rather off-handedly, attempt to validate their idiotic claims by saying that experts in the particular field say so. They then proceed to either provide no documentation, or use some kind of incredibly biased Christian resource.
Without Rapture Ready, FSTDT would not be the great source of wacky fundy quotes. What's with fundies and their obsession with homosexuality? Sounds like they are really deep in the closet.
I worked in a mental hospital for five years and homoesexuality was not a mental illness. If we got a gay patient, we would help him/her live with what they are. Many of the staff were gay too.
Sex change operations are state funded. One's gender is not dependant on the body one is stuck with. The state does make it hard to get a sex change operation for good reason. It is not a trivial matter changing one's sex.
Too bad god makes so many mistakes when he is creating us. Wrong gender or wrong sexual orientation. Sounds like god is a complete screwup.
"Also homosexuality, according to professionals,"
Your pastor does not count as a mental health professional.
So if people are mentally ill and wish to change their sex to feel comfortable with their bodies, and the only way you can treat them is to go along with the operation, then wouldn't it be unethical to withhold said treatment?
People need to be happy with the sex that God gave them!
He didn't give me enough.
In other news, I don't know what they're talking about, but anytime a fundie complains about Canada, I consider that a victory.
Now if we could just get rid of johnmuise.
being Transgendered first let me clarify this, it is NOT a mental illness it is a mental disorder 2 distinctly seperate categories, and least here in the states most insurance companies do not cover the surgery whis is about 20K not counting the minimum reguired 1 year of therapy with 2 seperate pschologist. As to your other point of it being disgusting to you all I can say is human ignorance is very disgusting to me and thankfully for the fundamentalist I can't get it made illegal
I love how they toss around the brand "mentally ill" as if it means something bad and gives them the right to oppress the people they use the brand on.
RaptureReadyGirl82 (what happened to 1-81? Killed by exorcism?), are you a qualified psychiatrist? Are you qualified to declare certain symptoms signs of mental illness?
""I'm very sorry that our leaders in Canada are lacking in tact ""
Bwa-HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Whoo-boy. Hark who's talking!
Homosexuality might've been considered a mental illness many decades ago, but that certainly isn't the case now.
Deliberately using outdated information is a bad, bad sign.
I wonder what they think of hermaphrodites.
People need to be happy with the sex that God gave them!
If god is so good then why would he make these people so uncomfortable in there bodies?
Also homosexuality, according to professionals, is caused by mental illness.
Are these "professionals" from the year 2008?
"Also homosexuality, according to professionals, is caused by mental illness."
Take that up with the APA, and just about every other major psychiatric organization.
So if your god hands someone a brain that doesn't match up with their body they should just live with his puckish sense of humour?
Fuck the old windbag, choose to be whatever you want.
I peaked a while back.
I was always pretty much disinterested in transgenders. You wanna be something? Who am i to judge.
I read about Wendy Carlos. The woman who wrote the score to Tron. She had been uncomfortable in her body her entire life. She saw the doctor who pioneered American transgender treatment. He gave her estrogen.
She relaxed for the first time in her life. So relaxed, she thought he’d given her a sedative.
Can you imagine being SO out of whack that your body getting the chemicals it needs hits you like a few CCs of happy juice? It must be like someone pulling out a splinter you thought was your sixth toe or something.
That’s fucking AMAZING. And horrifying.
And people like you insist they should be happy to be THAT uncomfortable, because God?
Fuck you. Fuck your god if that’s his stance, too.
I peaked. It’s not enough to put up with and not challenge transition, it must be defended as much any civil right.
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