Well, if humans came from apes then we should be backward compatible. You can made a dog with a wolf and a wolf with a dog. You can't mate a human with an ape or any of their genus i.e., monkies, chimps, orangutans, etc.
Mankind did not evolve from monkeys or apes.
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I wasn't aware that humans were simultaneously in the genera of Homo, Pan, Pongo, an the countless other genera that constitute "monkies".
Well you see both dogs and wolves are in the same genus. All the other Homos except us have died out because guess who was able to occupy thier niches. Anyway that's how evolution works, as the differences between to species changes over time eventually they reach a point where they cannot interbreed at all.
We're not backward compatible because the God wanted you to have to upgrade to other humans instead of sticking with the old Chimp version.
Oh, and "evolutionists" have proven conclusively we evolved from chimpanzees. Big difference.
On a more serious note, I fail completely to see why humans should be "backward compatible" in the first place.
I thought I was finally going to read of a fundie who got that we evolved from apes and not monkies, but you really ruined it for me by the end. Alas, we did not evolve from modern apes, those we evolved from have all died out. Even if they were still alive we are too far removed from them for us to mate. Dogs have only begun to split from wolf ancestors in the last 50,000 years or so. Meanwhile, the animal that spawned Humans is millions of years removed. Also the ability to breed with a species does not mean you came from them. If that was true we would come from Neanderthals, Lions would come from Tigers, etc. I'm not entirely sure you grasp that.
... backwards compatibility is something you find on your PS2. Or, say, you being born of some "compatibility" between your mom and her dad (also your big brother)
Speciation means you no longer are compatible. Like humans and monkeys. Kinda like trying to get a VCR to play a CD.
Human "races" are compatible, as they are all humans with extremely minor differences, mostly cosmetic. Just like how labrador-retrievers and black labs can breed together despite having different colored fur.
Humans and monkeys are both descendants of a common ancestor, millions of years ago. Kinda like how both your CD's and USB memstick keychain are both descended from the good old days of punch-card computers; but no matter how many times you slip that USBkey through the hole in the middle, nothing's gonna happen except people looking at you funny.
The ability to mate with someone depends on the degree to which the DNA molecules match. The less they match, the harder time they have combining. Some times they match well enough to produce fertile offspring, e.g., dogs and wolves, which shared a common ancestor within the last few tens of thousands of years. Sometimes they match well enough to produce offspring, but the offspring are infertile (horses and donkeys). Most of the time they don't match enough to work. All the fact that humans and chimps can't mate proves is that they split apart too long ago to be genetically compatible.
Before you attack another strawman, get your facts straight. Humans did not evolve from apes. Humans (genus homo) are a branch of the great apes (chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans). These are primates with little or no tails and big brains. The various genus do not interbreed.
Human beings aren't Windows.
Edit: Oh god, Jamo, you said it far better than I could possibly have.
Then Raistlin said the same thing. Funny, I don't associate Sony before Microsoft with backwards compatibility like everybody else here does. Where everybody = the two people who mentioned it.
Anyway, "Man is not a Sony Playstation" seconded, or thirded, depending on perspective.
So tony, tell the truth, did you TRY to mate with an ape and get shot down (or, more likely, beaten up!).
Dogs and wolves only split five to ten thousand years ago, and hence can interbreed as their DNA has not diverged sufficiently over a thousand generations. It's a bit like caucasians being able to interbreed with negroids and mongoloids, due to the fact the differences in isolated populations in the last 50,000 years are still entirely superficial and irrelevant at this stage.
We cannot interbreed with species we diverged from 5 million years ago. We definitely cannot interbreed with the species we diverged from 25 million years ago.
Finally, we did not evolve from apes, we are apes you idiot. You don't get retarded orang utans thinking they evolved from humans so STFU!
Except humans, "monkies" apes and orangutans are a different genus.
And dogs evolved from wolves only 100k years ago, humans split from apes at least 5 million years ago. Not that this matters when the earth is 6000 years old.
So if A and B can interbreed then there's no speciation, hence no macroevolution, hence Darwinism is a myth...
But if A and B can't interbreed then there's no backwards compatibility, so no common ancestry, hence Darwinism is a myth...
Talk about a Catch-22 !
Also, I haven't even got backwards compatability between the various versions of Windows on my home PCs!
Mind you, if I look 'under the hood', I can see that quite lot of code is common to both, so I guess they did come from the same source after all!
If only there were some evidence that Humans and apes are put together in very similar ways, or some sort of code we could compare to look for similarities...
Darling, don´t you notice that they EVOLVED, they didn´t fuck with..........well, there is bestiality, isn´t it?, there are mules too.
Ens : I guess it's just because I play video games, and the backwards compatibility issues with the PS2 and PS3 were a big deal. That's just the first thing I thought of when I heard "backwards compatible."
Either way, the analogy makes sense and is funny.
Oh dear, this dude again. I thought I'd seen enough of him on II.
Dogs and wolves split a few thousand years ago, humans and chimps split 6 million years ago. Dogs are much closer related to wolves then we are to chimps, we don't even have the same number of chromosomes as chimps and other apes do, 2 pairs of chromosomes have fused together in our lineage.
Yes, you are correct; humans did not come from apes; we ARE apes.
Yes, you are correct again; mankind did not evolve from monkeys, but humans and the other apes (great and not so great) evolved alongside monkeys, with a common ancestor way, way back.
'backward compatible'
I lol'd.
You can't mate a human with an ape or any of their genus i.e., monkies, chimps, orangutans, etc.
We don't know that yet--it's been tried but research ran into external issues (like World War II) so we'll likely never know.
Unless you care to rape a monkey or something.
Confused?
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