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If I, or someone else, was given blood that a gay person donated I would be very, very, angry. Then I would sue, because that's all they would understand.

There is a reason God decreed gay sex to be a SIN.

Walker, if you are OK getting gay blood, fine. I'm just saying the general population needs to be given the choice, before someone puts gay blood in their body. Kosher/nonkosher is a dietary thing. It will not kill a Jew, to get blood from me after I ate a bacon cheeseburger. I am monogomous with my husband; my blood is safe.

I'm a blood donor. So is my husband. So are most of my family. Most of my family has gotten blood; SAFE blood that came from people who did not engage in high-risk behavior.

I'm curious, if someone reading this is fine with the idea of getting gay blood, what about blood from an IV drug user? One you know shared needles with other injectable drug users.

Would you take gay blood?
Blood from a heroin addict?
Blood from someone who sold their body for "money or drugs"?

Right now, none of them can donate. IMO, it needs to STAY that way.

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old comment by Thinking Allowed

If I, or someone else, was given blood that a black person donated I would be very, very, angry. Then I would sue, because that's all they would understand.

There is a reason God decreed blacks to be a INFERIOR.

Walker, if you are OK getting black blood, fine. I'm just saying the general population needs to be given the choice, before someone puts black blood in their body. Kosher/nonkosher is a dietary thing. It will not kill a Jew, to get blood from me after I ate a bacon cheeseburger. I am the same race as my husband; my blood is safe.

I'm a blood donor. So is my husband. So are most of my family. Most of my family has gotten blood; SAFE blood that came from people who did not marry someone of a different race.

I'm curious, if someone reading this is fine with the idea of getting black blood, what about blood from a chinese person? One you know who worships a false god.

Would you take black blood?
Blood from a chinese person?
Blood from someone who sold their body for "money or drugs"?

Right now, none of them can donate. IMO, it needs to STAY that way.

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@ Frank

There was an episode of M*A*S*H* that addressed this issue of a soldier getting black blood. A lot of those are referencing that particular episode.

old comment by Flah

Dear lord, she's right! We can't take that kind of risk. After all, it's not like these organizations test and screen the donated blood for any harmful chemicals or pathogens. And we don't even know what kind of virus causes Gay in the first place! I might get a life-saving transfusion and later find myself wanting to bang a dude! Stay vigilant, friends! It could happen!

I suddenly wonder if someone can do what Hawkeye did in M*A*S*H and make her think she's turning gay. Maybe give her a butch haircut while she's asleep. Slowly sneak all of her skirts and dresses out of her wardrobe over a period of weeks. Replace the American flag which is no doubt proudly displayed over her front yard with a rainbow flag. The possibilities of mindfuckery are endless!

old comment by J. James

So, if I were to get a total blood transfusion from the gayest gay people ever, twelve times a week, for ten years, would I turn gay? No. My hormones might be a bit off and I might turn all pale and start sparkling in sunlight, but I most certainly wouldn't turn gay. That just wouldn't happen.

Just in case you didn't get it, scientists have surgically conjoined the circulatory systems of mice together, one with an obesity factor and a normal mouse. The horrifically obese mouse became skinnier and the normal mouse stayed the same because the normal mouse produced Leptin for the both of them. So even something as drastic as FAT in the blood can be counteracted easily by a normal system. "Gay things" probably aren't even present in the blood anyway, but even if they were your body would regulate them. Translation into english: GAY BLOOD CAN'T TURN YOU GAY.

old comment by solomongrundy

As a single heterosexual atheist man I donate blood regularly. I'd love it if there was someway I could ensure my blood wasn't used to prolong the lives of bigoted fuckwit Christian fundamentalists.

Oh, wait, no I wouldn't.

I don't care who gets my blood in the least. If you need it you can have it, be you Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, atheist, whatever.

I sometimes wonder if we should allow Acts5:41 ravings to be quoted here. She's apparently on some seriously heavy medication for her mental problems and as Mr Howard said "it's wicked to mock the afflicted". That said, she apparently spends her days inflicting her opinions upon others and perhaps as she sows so should she reap.

old comment by Professor M

I'm a blood donor. So is my husband. So are most of my family. Most of my family has gotten blood; SAFE blood that came from people who did not engage in high-risk behavior.

If your family includes children, then you've engaged in more high-risk sexual behavior than I have. I'm quite strict about using barrier methods for anything involving penetration, and I've never had a condom break. I've also been tested regularly, even during periods when I haven't been sexually active enough for it to be completely necessary; I promote STI testing for others, and I have an internship in a hospital, so I figure that I might as well go all-out and make completely sure.

In other words, as a blood donor I'd be a considerably lower risk than a heterosexual with any history of unprotected fluid-swapping. Yet guess which of the two of us has been permanently excluded from donating blood?

old comment by Swede

Yup, there's a reason; the men who invented God felt threatened by gay people.

Blood is not gay. Gay is a sexual thing. It will not make you gay to get blood from a gay girl after she had sex with her wife.
Would a lesbian become heterosexual after receiving blood from a heterosexual person?

You might be "monogomous", but are you certain that your husband is?
Being "monogomous" with your lesbian wife is also to not engage in high-risk behavior.
Lesbians have fewer STDs than heterosexuals.

It seems you do engage in high-risk behaviors; I have never gotten blood, I don't know of many that have, but most of your family have needed a refill for some reason or other.

The drugs are actually IN the blood, so no; I would not be OK with blood from a drug user.

Of course I would take blood from a gay donor, if she/he had passed all the tests that every blood donor has to pass.
A heroin addict would not pass the tests to become a donor.
To some people, becoming a wife to a rich man is to sell your body for "money or drugs". Should Hollywood Wives not be able to donate blood, perhaps?

Sadly I can't give blood as I'm on medication for epilepsy.
If they could put information about ibuprofen on the blood bag, couldn't they put information about my medication too?
Nah, it wouldn't work, few people are on the same medication, and you need to step up to my dosage over four weeks.

old comment by Adrian

"I am monogomous with my husband;"

Good for you.

"my blood is safe."

Sorry, but this doesn't automatically follow: for all you know, your husband could enjoy getting gang-banged bareback by a few heroin-addicted pre-op transsexual prostitutes when he goes on a "business" trip :P

@StoneSpiral:
"Wasn't there an argument somewhat like this when blood transfusions first became available about how white people didn't want blood from black people?"

Indeed, as Midnight mentionned it in another quote, the US army used to segregate blood donations, and protesting against this cost Dr. Charles R. Drew his job.

@Arctic Knight:
"I am monogamous with my wife, yet the ARC won't take my blood because I spent too many years living in Europe. I want to give, but I'm not allowed to."

WTF!? I could understand requiring you to get tested for tropical diseases that may not be detected by the standard tests before allowing you to give blood if you had lived in, say, Africa or South-East Asia, but Europe, seriously...?
And even if you had lived in a tropical or third world country, why should you be prohibited from giving blood if you test clean...?

old comment by Gloria

@ Adrian and Bronn
If you've been incertain parts of Europe for more than a certain ammount of time (varying by area,) you're considered to be at risk for variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease. Since there is no test for that, and there is some evidence it can be transmitted via transfusion, they're understandably hardcore about it.

And yes, Adrian, Europe. I hate to break it to you, but disease does not go out of its way to avoid parts of the world that you consider more civilised.

@ Head of the conspiracy

It's the needles that are the main issue, not the heroin. Gays and drug users get grouped together in these discussions because they're banned for the same reason: higher HIV risk. Heroin stays in the blood stream fairly briefly - a few days, max. HIV hangs around a little longer.

old comment by Adrian

@Gloria

"@ Adrian and Bronn
If you've been incertain parts of Europe for more than a certain ammount of time (varying by area,) you're considered to be at risk for variant Creutzfeld-Jacob Disease. Since there is no test for that, and there is some evidence it can be transmitted via transfusion, they're understandably hardcore about it."

Ah, the old mad cow disease. I must confess that I had completely forgotten about that one. It does make more sense, I guess...

"And yes, Adrian, Europe. I hate to break it to you, but disease does not go out of its way to avoid parts of the world that you consider more civilised."

Nothing to do with "civilisation level" (if such a thing even exists), I simply thought that the US and Europe shared pretty much all their major diseases. As I said, I had completely forgotten about Creutzfeld-Jacob.

EDIT/ADDENDUM:
@Pilotess: after sleeping on the question, I think I twigged why they'd stil be happy to take your spare parts even if they don't want your blood.

If I understood what Gloria said correctly, there is currently no way to test blood for the Mad Cow prion. I suppose that the kind of tests that might detect it would be too invasive/painful/dangerous/expensive/complex to be practicaly included in the testing routine for blood donors; on the other hand, if they're harvesting your organs after your death, you won't really mind if they open your brainpan and cut a slice of your grey matter to check if it has started to go all Spongebob.

In the end, I guess it all boils down to risks/benefits and supply/demand: with blood, the supply is plenty enough and the potential damage that could be done by an infected regular donor high enough that going into better safe than sorry mode is reasonable. On the other hand, available compatible organs are very much rare, so you can't really rule out a donor just because he happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time: transplants are risky anyway, so the quasi-certainty of death without that new heart would outweight the (slim) possibility that the donor had CreutzfeldtJakob and that the tests missed it.

“If I, or someone else, was given blood that a gay person donated I would be very, very, angry.”
They filter for sex with a man. They don’t filter for sex with a woman. So, you’re talking about lesbian blood, right?

"Then I would sue, because that's all they would understand.”
You’d have to show HARM to sue. What HARM was committed by giving you blood? We would assume that the doctor felt your health was at risk when they gave you the blood, in attempt to improve your life expectancy. How would you show you’d have been better off with no blood than ‘gay’ blood?

“There is a reason God decreed gay sex to be a SIN.”
Not admissible in a courtroom, sorry.

“It will not kill a Jew, to get blood from me after I ate a bacon cheeseburger.”
Should that be YOUR choice or the Jewish patient’s?

“I'm curious, if someone reading this is fine with the idea of getting gay blood, what about blood from an IV drug user?”
That’s something else they filter out. If you really gave blood, you’d answer that question on a regular basis, no?

“Would you take gay blood?”
The two times i was in a situation where i needed blood, it was a survival thing. If they told me the choice was surviving or maybe being exposed to something icky, i have to be honest, ick away, Doc, just keep me alive.

"Right now, none of them can donate. IMO, it needs to STAY that way.”
Tell me that again when your husband is holding his liver in the wound so it won’t fall out after a ten-car pile-up, and all the SAFE blood was used on the people thay picked up while he was being jaws-o-lifed out of your car. But a gay nurse is willing to donate some. DO you tell her to fuck off?

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