Fellow Christians - does it bother any of you that Obama dosen't go to church and apprently dosen't seek God?
source: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_12/016208.php
Dosen't that make him like the bad kings in the Bible that lead Isreal astray and lead to their demise at the hand of the Babalonians (sp)? If he is not seeking God then where is his guidence comming from?
I think he is rebellious against God.
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Oh, cram it. No matter what church he went to, you'd find some way to bitch about that too. It wouldn't be the "right kind" of church, or you'd consider him a hypocrite. There is absolutely no pleasing you assholes.
Since the question is now deleted let me answer the question here as a Christian.
-No it doesn't bother me that he isn't openly religious. What he does spiritually is between him and God, and God will hand in His judgement on Obama when all is said and done in his life. So how about you stop trying to do God's job huh?
The article you stated as your source is dated in December 2008 before he was sworn in. The author of the column also expresses that he might not be going to church because of all the media attention he was getting at the time and possibly not trying to burden the rest of the people around him with it.
-What's that you say? I can't be a Christian for saying that? I thought you might say something like that.
so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
so that your fasting will not be noticed by men, but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you
Sounds like even according to the bible it is O.K. to not attend church but rather pray in private ;)
He's not being "rebellious", but he is being courteous to others by not choosing to disrupt their lives with the Security. Good on him.
Besides, aren't christians supposed to be christians 324/7?
I'd much rather he focus on running the country than following ancient superstitions. I mean, he could be like Ron & Nancy Reagan who consulted an astrologist every day to see what to do, or like G.W. Bush who invaded a country because he thought God told him to.
Lots of Christians don't go to church. Many of the ones who do don't get regularly.
Maybe he just wants private church services so the media won't disrupt other people in the church. And maybe he's getting guidance from, I don't know, his own personal morals, the advice of people around him and common sense?
No, it simply means that he hasn't found a specific congregation in Washington, D.C. that fits his needs. Considering the sheer amount of work a president has to do to keep a huge country like the U.S. running smoothly, I'm honestly not surprised he hasn't had much leftover time for church-hunting.
Also, I love the implication that not attending a church means you don't pray or have any religious beliefs--I'm sure the early Christians would love to hear that secret prayers and clandestine meetings meant they weren't real Christians.
Plus, there are other sources of guidance besides religious leaders and pastors (let's face it--God DOESN'T speak directly to at least 90% of the population, and the rest of us may be imagining things). Psychologists, friends and family, and yes, his own conscience can be sources of guidance as well.
Washington went to church, but left before the sermons, deist that he was. Was Washington also evil?
Reagan, on the other hand, attended church very very infrequently, yet you people LOVE him.
"Fellow Christians - does it bother any of you that Obama dosen't go to church and apprently dosen't seek God?"
Erm - isn't he secretly a muslim? Even though Allah is a false god, Obama is still seeking him? Can you make up your minds on this?
Fellow Christians - does it bother any of you that Obama dosen't go to church and apprently dosen't seek God?
Dosen't that make him like the bad kings in the Bible that lead Isreal astray and lead to their demise at the hand of the Babalonians (sp)?
If he is not seeking God then where is his guidence comming from?
Well it's not coming from a hypocritical evangelical wacko methhead like his predecessor
If you believe your babble then this is god's problem since he ordained him (Romans 13:1). I have a suspicion that your objections have nothing to do with any of that. He simply thinks for himself, a concept that is foreign to you.
"If he is not seeking God then where is his guidence comming from?"
Hopefully from common sense and educated professionals in the fields that he is seeking guidance in..
If he is not seeking God then where is his guidence comming from?
Probably from his own judgment, as well as other, actually real people.
Also, even if he isn't going to church, how do you know he isn't getting guidance from God? Maybe when you get elected God speaks to you directly to help you lead the country, and that's why he stopped going to church. :P
"I think he is rebellious against God."
I think he has better things to do (like fix the mess the shrub made) than waste 5 hours a week listening to some old virgin tell him about the evils of life on earth.
"I think he is rebellious against God."
Further proof of what I always say:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Fundie.
Why? Just read Romans 13:1-7, John. The very fact you said what you did has earned you your one-way ticket to the Lake O'Fire.
Re: swede's post
Have you ever been to a facility of any kind (not necessarily a church) during a Presidential visit?
I have. It's a massive disruption to the routine. Road closures, metal detectors, armed guards, etc etc etc.
To be blunt, I wouldn't want a President to visit my church. It would be like attending church at the food court of a major mall at lunchtime Christmas Eve.
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