But it is evidence which denies my power to consciously choose, therefore it must be flawed.
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I tried to follow this, but it's a long and rambling forum. Nevertheless, It seems that Alan disputes the evidence concerning conscious and unconscious processes in the brain - and because he has made up his mind beforehand, any evidence to undermine his preconception "must be flawed".
Nutshell.
Kitzmiller vs. Dover - via a Conservative [I]Christian[/I], Judge John E. Jones III - proved that Evolution is scientific fact : as there wasn't enough evidence to the contrary presented by Michael Behe & the rest of the defence.
As a result, teaching Cre(a)ti(o)nism in all accredited US educational establishments is unconstitutional. Evolution is fact , proven by evidence. Genesis in the Bible - and therefore everything else in that book of fairytales - is proven to be lies . Romans 13:1-5, don't forget.
John E. Jones III was personally appointed to the Federal bench by Conservative Christian George Dumbya Bush: in turn, voted in - twice - by Conservative Christians. Just. Like. You .
The evidence is clear. You consciously voted in Dumbya, therefore like your Buybull - ergo your 'Belie fs' as a whole - you are flawed: as you helped to ensure that your entire 'Belie fs' are exactly that: lies .
Even your 'God' is imperfect .
Better not watch the "Star Trek: TOS" episode "The Changeling" if you know what's good for you, Al. [/Nomad]
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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