God only knows how many people have also rejected Jesus Christ as their personal Savior because of Wilder's unbelief. Hell is filled with kind, sweet and honorable people. Yet, there are murderers in Heaven, like Moses and David, and Saul (Paul). You don't go to Hell because you're a sinner. You go to Hell because you reject God's grace that freely offers eternal life to all men by faith in Jesus as the Christ.
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Sadly, the insane world would rather burn in Hell and miss out on all of God's blessings. Please don't miss Heaven! If you want to experience Heaven, which will be the real life fulfillment of all the wonderful euphoric feelings which you've felt if you've ever watched “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory ,” then just receive Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.
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David, unless you are actually dead, you have no idea about Heaven or Hell. All you have is your own interpretation of a book compiled from older texts and altered, mistranslated myths by a religious establishment with their own agenda.
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:
Seems to be a lot there about doing , Davey Boy, and not copping out. How very Roman Catholic.
"If you want to experience Heaven, which will be the real life fulfillment of all the wonderful euphoric feelings which you've felt if you've ever watched “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory,”"
"there are murderers in Heaven, like Moses and David, and Saul (Paul)."
Another reason why, if DJS's god even exists, it is not worthy of our worship and why, rather than honouring it, we should seek how to destroy it.
Oh, another one of those, "(insert celebrity name) is burning in Hell because s/he didn't worship Jesus Christ like I do/at all."
I knew DJS was going to make an article like this. He sure sounds really judgmental about where celebrities end up in the afterlife.
So Heaven's Wonka chocolate factory now is it?
Well, Wonka was definitely a phycho so maybe there's a similarity. Dave sees it all as euphoric because he imagines he's at the bottom of the pit they drop Veruca Salt down.
"Hell is filled with kind, sweet and honorable people. Yet, there are murderers in Heaven, like Moses and David, and Saul (Paul). You don't go to Hell because you're a sinner. You go to Hell because you reject God's grace"
And that, my friends, is one of my biggest problems with religion. I can't sum it up better.
DJS, you just admitted that your god is an inhumanly evil monster, so why would we ever want to worship it? Let it die all alone in its anger and hate. It doesn't deserve to exist even in the collective unconscious, or in the realm of imagination. Let it forever fade from our collective memory.
No, we (mankind) should try to strive to make ourselves better than any deity. Only then will we have the last laugh.
Just asuming these fairy tales would be true: Anyone else beside me who would rather spend eternity in hell with Billy Wilder, Robin Williams, Gandhi and all the other great people than with murderers and David Steward in heaven?
Assuming your fairy tales would be true, there`s also the third option: Killing your god, breaking down the gates of his club for psychos and traitors and then really judging you and your kind how you deserve it.
You go enjoy heaven, Davey, with or without candy sprinkles. If you're planning to be there, that's not a good selling point, you know.
Romans 11:26-32. All Jews - religious or not - are Saved and going to Heaven. Thus bypassing the foundation of your fundie Christain doctrine - John 14:6 - and making your J-boy a sad panda.
Y'know who was Jewish? Gene Wilder.
You're not even wrong, Davey-boy.
@Mailingspann
"You go to Hell because you reject God's grace that freely offers eternal life to all men by faith in Jesus as the Christ."
"How does Grace feel about that?"
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Grace, the genius - and hard as nails - alternate personality of Cynthia Rand-Laviger would kick his arse too. >:D
Wilder who?
So, your god is a monster who subjects good people to eternal suffering, while promoting murderers to eternal bliss?
Oh, you mean Gene Wilder? I've never watched the old version of WW. The new one didn't give me any wonderful euphoric feelings. Sure, it's an enjoyable movie, but I've seen better.
How can we know if it's just receiving Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, or if it requires good work too? The Bible says both, ya know...
Ho-ly shit. I know "God saves assholes and condemns decent folk to Hell" is the single most recurring criticism of DJS and his ilk, but to see him acknowledge how immoral this makes God look and promptly casually brush it aside ... why hasn't hardcore Calvinism been deemed a cult again? Oh yeah, I forgot - same reason as Scientology.
which will be the real life fulfillment of all the wonderful euphoric feelings which you've felt if you've ever watched “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory,”
Davey likes Charlie and the the Chocolate Factory? (Dahl's original book FTW.) That's nice and all, but doesn't his God hate secular media of any sort? Bad DJS! Into the pits of Hell with ye!
Guess what Dave, there are those that reject your god because of your beliefs. Well, maybe not so much on your personal level of beliefs, but the way you portray yourself and your god. I for one have rejected the Christian god partly because of the way that some Christians act.
"Hell is filled with kind, sweet and honorable people. Yet, there are murderers in Heaven..."
And this doesn't give you a hint how fucked up your beliefs are?
So; Heaven's a place where one can get sucked up a chocolate pipe, take a nightmarish boat ride, turn into a blueberry, get full of gas and almost get pureed, fall down a garbage chute and get shrunk.
Tell me why I'd WANT to go to your version of Heaven, again?
@ StrangerInAStrangeLand
Hmm, murderers maybe, but with Stewart? Never!
Honey Wilder.
like Moses and David
Woah, stop, back up. How on earth could Moses and David have "faith in Jesus as the Christ"? They were long dead and dust before he was born. According to your brand of insanity they should both be roasting toasty in Hell.
the wonderful euphoric feelings which you've felt if you've ever watched “Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Euphoric feelings? While I enjoyed the book as a kid, I thought the movie was absolutely horrible. But your analogy explains a lot.
David, when people think of the people Moses allegedly murdered, they really don't give a crap about that one slave driver who your god probably would have wanted dead anyway. They give a crap about the people that churches teach children to cheer at the horrific slaughter of.
"You don't go to Hell because you're a sinner. You go to Hell because you reject God's grace that freely offers eternal life to all men by faith in Jesus as the Christ. "
- then what is the point ofthe concept of "sin"? If your god doesn't care about what you do as long as you believe in Jesus, why does he even bother to make any rules past "believe in Jesus"?
Gene Wilder once said, "I'm going to tell you what my religion is: 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' Period. Terminato. Finito... I have no other religion."
The notion that only God's mercy can get you into Heaven is supposed to stop people from bragging about being goody-goodies. But the thing is, a great many people who are supposedly in Heaven have jack shit to brag about.
Be good, little Johnny, and I'll give you candy. If you're not good, though...
I WILL SLOWLY TEAR OFF YOUR SKIN AND LEAVE YOU TO MOAN IN AGONY ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET.
So be good.
How does one "reject God's grace"? Do you shake your fist at the general direction of the sky and say "Hey God ... take your grace and shove it where the sun don't shine"? Or does God come down and say "Psst ... do you want some grace?" and you say "Naah, I'd rather go to hell"? And if Jesus wants to be everyone's personal savior, why can't he just get on with it? What do we have to do? Tell him telepathically "yeah, OK, save me"?
@Mister Spak
"At least he's back with Gilda."
At least she wouldn't call Gene a 'Dweeb'.
But that Griffon would, if she met DJS. /)^3^(\
Heaven is like the Chocolate Factory, if you were incapable of anything other than unending love. At least in Hell you have Satan to talk to, of whom has only ever killed 10 people (with God's permission, of course), and a whole bunch of other, extremely intelligent fellows such as Einstein and Darwin.
Wait, did he just compare Heaven to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
There exists a non-religious movie that DJS likes? Or at the very least doesn't see as promoting the Illuminati/Satan/et. al.?
I'm shocked.
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