Should not everyone who believes in the accidental creation of life also be avid lotto players?
As a person would have to hit the lotto of every state, everyday, for a million years to come close to the odds of an entire universe and life within that universe spontaneously generating from unknown origins.
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Since evolution only requires someone, somwewhere, to win the lotto, I would say that the fact that people do, in fact, win against almost impossible odds neatly demonstrates how idiotic a fundie can be when picking examples.
Hope that helps,
Grey Wolf
The odds of a colossal invisible sky wizard with an infinite age deciding to make things exactly the way they are now out of all of the possible combinations, instead of them happening by themselves through selection, then, are better? Oh, and add in the odds that in addition to the lesser likelihood of such in comparison, your argument would need to consider that he would have then also allowed (or brought about, lol?) the creation of countless vastly differing accounts of the way he made everything just to see us fight it out. Then, just to top it off, gave us all the hints in the world that he in fact DIDN'T do it just to deliberately waste our time. Don't even get me started on the not-quite-intelligent design of our bodies, with all our mind-blowing flaws, blind spots in our eyes, vestigial parts, etc. Hmm, thinking of Occam's razor, I really need to shave..
Have a look at this picture:
[img]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hubble_ultra_deep_field.jpg[/img]
That is the so-called Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF), a photography taken in 2003. What you see are about 10.000 galaxies in a very small region of space.
"The image covers 11.5 square arcminutes[1]. This is smaller than a 1 mm by 1 mm square of paper held 1 meter away, and equal to roughly one thirteen-millionth of the total area of the sky."
So if you interpolate, you'll end up with a number of galaxies that is multiple times the number of people that ever lived on Earth, each consisting of billions of solar systems.
But I guess Chi Guy thinks the universe is just a black tablecloth with pinpricks in it.
Damn you, broken edit-function!
...here's the link to the wiki-entry in plaintext: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra_Deep_Field
I also forgot to add that even if Chi Guy's statistics were true (I kinda think he just pulled those numbers out of his ass), given the immense size of the universe and with billions of years available, the chance of life spontaneously popping up somewhere would exceed 1.
Your analogy's valid if you change it to /someone/ winning the lottery regularly rather than the same person over and over. With your current analogy it would be as if our origin was a quite common event and every remotely habitable corner of the universe should be teaming with life. Of course, you'd have to understand something about science and that's probably just not gonna happen.
Because there was such a large number of events within the system.
Unlike, say, within Chi Guy's brain.
Change "million" to "billions of" years.
The lottery is a bad analogy.
How about lightning hitting the same place a hundred times, or a thousand? Give it time...it'll happen.
"Spontaneous", in the context of biological history, does not mean "immediate visible results".
In a long enough time period, it's possible for anything to happen.
Not to mention, the comparison here is absurd.
"Should not everyone who believes in the accidental creation of life also be avid lotto players?"
Only if you are awarded every possible lottery ticket in every draw for the entire history of the universe. What, did I fuck your strawman analogy?
Since evolution only requires someone, somwewhere, to win the lotto, I would say that the fact that people do, in fact, win against almost impossible odds neatly demonstrates how idiotic a fundie can be when picking examples.
pwned.
Wow. Life suitable to the planet it is on occurred. And is not observable on planets it is not suitable on.
Imagine that.
So unlikely.
Also, "someone won the lottery once" is not a valid excuse to play the lottery. Unless you already failed at math. There's a reason they call it the "idiot tax".
Haha, you think that's crazy? Imagine a god spontaneously generating from unknown origins, THEN spontaneously deciding to create a universe exactly as it was 6000 years ago, with evidence of an older age planted in it. I mean, velocities of stars moving away from us, fossils, concentrations of radioisotopes -- everything -- pointing to an age of billions of years.
Combine that with no knowldge about statistics, that the past doesn't determine the future in random events, they'd put everything on the lotto for sure!
Actually, purely for the record, Chi, the chances of that happening again is 1:1. The chances of it happening again, exactly the same, admittedly, is astronomical.
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