[Michael responds to a letter writer distraught that his son doubts the existence of God. He gives reasons why this might be.]
"Fifthly, it is often the case that a young teenager who doubts the existence of God has been exposed to science fiction in movies or video games. If that is the case all we can say is that the best salesman won.
Sixthly, if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography. Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist. It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law."
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If that is the case all we can say is that the best salesman won.
Then God is thinking about the benefits of outsourcing his PR right now.
Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist
Well, you've certainly told me all I need to know about your private trains of thought, haha.
It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law.
He has a wife, you know. Know what she's called?
(from a few paragraphs down)
In short your sons needs to be exposed to a group of people whose religion goes deeper than their shout and whose lives demand an explanation that can only be answered with the existence of a living God. You could procure material by Josh McDowell. Evidence that Demands a Verdict is a good book for your son to read. My book By Divine Design was written to give a defense of the philosophy of Christian belief.
(Dunno if BBcode works on the board)
"Sixthly, if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography."
The other 1% are looking at things we wouldn't call pornography, but the 1% would.
However, you Michael, being a grown man and all, must never look at any pornography right? So you wouldn't mind if I asked to see your browser history right?
I'm sensing a little of pot,kettle,black here.
@Riftoff
Hocking his own book and ideology as a cure for disbelief? Do you have no sense of humility or shame Michael?
<fap, fap, fap, fap> Wha? What'd he say? <fap, fap, fap, fap>
I know plenty of Christians who feel tremendously guilty when they look at porn, but they still don't doubt the existence of God. That's just stupid.
@Ritoff
If his son is into into fact-checking and looking up people's source, then "Evidence that Demands a Verdict" will drive his son away from Christianity much faster than otherwise.
""Fifthly, it is often the case that a young teenager who doubts the existence of God has been exposed to science fiction in movies or video games."
Isaac Asimov and Shigeru Miyamoto are of the DEVIL!
"Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist."
I don't suffer from guilt for looking at porn. What's there to be guilty about? And even if I "didn't want God to exist" that wouldn't change whether or not He/She/It actually existed. Atheists just don't see any compelling evidence for a supernatural creator, especially one who intervenes on behalf of ordinary humans by miraculously "curing" our relatives of cancer or helping us find our lost car keys.
Sixthly, if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography
And 1% would be lying.
Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist
I do not suffer guilt. And no I don't want your god to exist, because he doesn't exist now, and according to your bible he is a fucking douchebag.
"If that is the case all we can say is that the best salesman won."
So you freely admit that belief in your god simply boils down to a good sales pitch rather than the fact that you think he/it is real.
Hey, YOU said it.
Sixthly , if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography. Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist. It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law."
You speak from personal experience?
So, porn and video games have better salesmen than god? I don't even know how that's supposed to work. But I can say that they have superior products to whatever the hell god is offering. And, yes, incontinence is a terrible thing. People pissing everwhere, unable to control their urges.
Can I try this to?
Firstly, he has come to realisation that there isn't a shred of evidence pointing to the existence of a god.
Secondly... no, wait... That was it.
"Sixthly, if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography. Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist. It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law.""
Michael is projecting so much here I could use him to show a PowerPoint presentation.
(credit for that sentence goes to whoever it was on FSTDT that I stole it from)
Sure, all guys look at porn. Nothing wrong with that. But what you, Mr. Pearl, seem to fail to realise is that no access to the internet does in no way guarantee that one will not have access to porn. I grew up prior to the internet, yet I still had access to plenty of porn.
Besides, what's wrong with porn? Sure, it's a fairly bland form of entertainment, and the acting leaves much to be desired, but you tell me then; how the hell am I supposed to fap-off to TV-cooking? (BTW, leave Nigella out of this...)
It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law.
Looking at internet porn makes a guy piss his pants?
Yeah. Whatever. My husband would have needed bladder catheterization long ago.
So, Michael Pearl, from your post I take it you have a rather extensive porn collection and is hooked on video games and watches scifi all the time, what else is new?
"it is often the case that a young teenager who doubts the existence of God has been exposed to science fiction in movies or video games. If that is the case all we can say is that the best salesman won."
DOCTOR WHO MADE ME A AGNOSTIC!
> Fifthly, it is often the case that a young teenager who doubts the existence of God has been exposed to science fiction in movies or video games.
It is for this reason and no other that I worship Verity Lambert and Arthur C Clarke.
For the record:
I *love* pornography.
If porn, movies, and video games are all it took, then your son wasn't all that sure of God's existence in the first place.
A genuine believer in a religion will require a good deal of study and contemplation before daring to renounce his or her beliefs.
From the original letter: "My eldest child is almost 14 years old. He is homeschooled, has never been to school. We live on an acreage, and he spends a lot of time outdoors and tinkering around. My problem is he has difficulty always doing as he is told (he listens better to his father, but still argues sometimes). He is self-centered and does not take initiative to do things that need doing, but must be asked. Compared to the average teenager, he is an angel - but by Biblical standards (and the first-time obedience we read and agree with in your books), he falls short."
Aside from the homeschooling, what I see here is a fairly normal 14-year old...
WMDKitty wrote:
"Remind me again, what's the big fucking deal about pr0n?"
Sexual arousal is a strong feeling. Fundies want your only strong feelings to be for God.
If there's anything a meme can't stand, it's competition.
"Fifthly, it is often the case that a young teenager who doubts the existence of God has been exposed to science fiction in movies or video games. If that is the case all we can say is that the best salesman won.
Yeah, at least he chose a fantasy that's pleasant, as opposed to just one long hack fiction.
Sixthly, if young men have had access to the web, 99% of them will look at pornography. Porno freaks suffer such guilt and lust that they do not want God to exist. It is incontinent for a great sinner to be under moral law."
No, people who look at porn (We're not ALL necessarily porn freaks, for the record...) just choose not to live in prudish fear of our own bodies. That's all.
His bad attitude seems to come...if he feels something is not "fair". (We have never tried to be "fair" - it is simply selfishness)
So against all the odds you've raised a kid with a sense of justice and fair play and (surprise, surprise) he's found you to be wanting. Boo f'ing hooo. At the age of thirteen he's more of a man than the baby-beater Michael Pearl will ever be.
I say kudos to the kid for being smart enough at 14 to start thinking for himself, and for turning out fairly normal, considering how crazy his parents are. "We don't want him to get the idea life is supposed to be fair, that's just selfish thinking."
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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