I am not saying that every woman that is raped was dressed immodestly. I was answering the scenario that lemuel gave to me. He said that she tempted him, and then said no. I think that in today's world that everywhere a man looks there are women dressed immodestly, and that causes the struggle to begin within each man. Many times it consumes his thoughts, and he can think of little else. Some men can control themselves, and some can't. You never know what man can or can not handle the constant onslaught of nakedness. The man who rapes will most likely be looking for an opportunity to present itself no matter how she is dressed. And for those who say that rape is not about lust but about power, then why rape? Why not just beat them? Yes the rapist should be held responsible and punished, but I think that every woman that dresses immodestly, every centerfold, or playboy bunny, every stripper lap dancer, or porno queen should share some of the responsibility for what they have driven the rapists to.
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For a start, I have no doubt that every rapist who ends up in court who is genuinely guilty will claim that the woman tempted him, flaunted herself, or led him on, even when she didn't.
Secondly, men will imagine having sex with women they find attractive, just as women will do with men. The only thing is, that in decent people, CONSENT is also part of this fnatasy or scenario. If a man lusts after the idea of having sex with a woman and does not care if she consents then there is something very much wrong with him not with her.
The man who rapes will most likely be looking for an opportunity to present itself no matter how she is dressed.
Thank you. The only truthful thing you've said so far. Yes most rapists plan their attacks and know their victims and look for an opportunity to get them alone or in a situation where they are vulnerable.
And for those who say that rape is not about lust but about power, then why rape? Why not just beat them?
Because by raping them it is the ultimate humiliation. Some of them beat their victims too you know?
Yes the rapist should be held responsible and punished, but I think that every woman that dresses immodestly, every centerfold, or playboy bunny, every stripper lap dancer, or porno queen should share some of the responsibility for what they have driven the rapists to."
When you put any amount of responsibility on to the victim, you take it away from the attacker, therefore excusing what he did.
It doesn't matter what a woman wears or what she does for a living, you might not like what she does, but it still doesn't make what the rapist did any less wrong.
You are a rape apologist, and an embarrassment to your gender.
"then why rape? Why not just beat them?"
it's called misogyny, silly!
I think you should meet a rapist. No, I don't think in a back alley, but in a safe environment, where you can have a conversation with him, and realise just what kind of a man he is. He won't respect you because you're a good, modest Christian woman. He'll think you're just another bitch.
You would think porn and one's ability to masturbate would surpress one's inhabitions to rape someone. It's kind of like ex herion addicts who smoke. I know it's a horrible analogy and that it's isn't 100% full proof.
I think the main problem is that men think of dating a girl, having sex, is some type of status symbol. That you aren't normal unless you are not a virgin. We have got to teach that the opposite sex isn't for our pleasure or gain and that we are both human, we both share emotions and our needs to be social. I have many friends who are girls who I respect and enjoy their company, I also look at a lot of porn, I do not however degrade my friends by looking at them in such lustfull ways, I do think they are hot but I know there is more to them than sex.
Ok I can go on forever, sorry if I was redundant.
The man who rapes will most likely be looking for an opportunity to present itself no matter how she is dressed.
This was the first line of the post I read, immediately after checking the poster's ID, and I felt an distinct need to check if the sky hadn't turned bright green with neon pink polka dots: sensible words from the mouth of Mrs. Kellie...!? But the next sentences quickly proved that no, she hadn't found the "on" switch for her brain or her heart.
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I think you should meet a rapist. No, I don't think in a back alley, but in a safe environment, where you can have a conversation with him, and realise just what kind of a man he is. He won't respect you because you're a good, modest Christian woman. He'll think you're just another bitch.
Well, in her case he wouldn't be mistaken, would he? She may have two X chromosomes and fit some definitions of modest and Xian, but she isn't good by any stretch of the imagination, and she's definitely a twisted, hateful bitch.
Every woman has the right to dress as she wants, and nobody can judge her for that.
The rapers are insane, and if you want rapes to dicrease, you have to educate the boys, not the girls.
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