[In reference to cited articles offering scientific arguments against Biblical flood]
I also read the two bits about the flood. As I stated before, when a person draws a conclusion that directly contradicts the Bible account I do not believe that individual in that subject. Both of the articles had as their conclusion the idea that no universal flood existed, that it was a myth. God is no liar, thus their entire framework etc. is off base. I readly agree that if one doesn't believe in God or the Scriptures to begin with that this is not to them 'proof.' But it is enough for me.
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Given that, you cannot trust anything or anyone because for all you know, everything around you could be an elaborate lie designed by... say, satan. That, my furry fundie friend, is no way to live a mentally balanced life.
"I also read the two bits about the flood. As I stated before, when a person draws a conclusion that directly contradicts the Bible account I do not believe that individual in that subject."
So, you're saying that when a PhD biologist claims that striped goats aren't bred by having their parents look at stiped stick while mating, you don't ever trust him/her on any question concerning biology ever again? Don't rust an astronomer who doesn't believe the stars are so tiny several can be held in your hand? You really are an idiot.
"Both of the articles had as their conclusion the idea that no universal flood existed, that it was a myth."
Good. That's a solidly supported, rational, reasonable conclusion.
"God is no liar, thus their entire framework etc. is off base."
First, your God and all gods, are not real.
Second, even if he was real, in II Thess. your Bible admits that God is a liar.
"I readly agree that if one doesn't believe in God or the Scriptures to begin with that this is not to them 'proof.'"
Good for you to realize that.
"But it is enough for me."
Well, that's not so good for you.
So, no matter what the evidence, if scientists' assertions disagree with the stories in your big book of ancient fairt tales, the scientists must be wrong? You really, really are an idiot.
Typical fundie, only gets his facts from people who completly agree with him, and ignores anything less then that.
@Rockstar: That's how the Flood myth started, they jsut kept talking about this huge flood they had in Mesototamia until it reached global proportions, then someone got the idea to write about it and present it as whole truth.
Sheesh, I hope this dude has never eaten shellfish.
There is evidence for some pretty big floods out there, but not a flood of the whole earth. It's easy to see how from the perspective of one boat and a man who had never lost sight of land, such a flood would be interpreted as larger than it really was. Thus emerge the flood myths, supported by our natural tendency to tell stories about the things that we perceive as dangerous.
God is no liar, thus their entire framework etc. is off base. God may not be a liar, but the folks who wrote the bible were just scallywags, and so were the ones who cherry picked the gospels, and so were the folks who interpreted them into Greek and then into English. If you aren't born with a bullshit detector, or obtain one in your life, you have no idea which framework to accept and which one to reject.
I read(i)ly agree that if one doesn't believe in God or the Scriptures to begin with that this is not to them 'proof.' And where exactly did he get the idea that the folks who present a scientific evidence against biblical flood actually believe in those scriptures . And he speaks of others having off-base frameworks!
I have a question. Is it possible that, while there wasn't a world-wide flood, that there was at one point a flooding of the known civilized world (ie, the Mediterranean and Middle East) about 5,000 years ago? Just about every mythology from cultures in that area has a flood story and I've heard stuff about buildings being found at the bottom of the black sea (of course, that stuff could be wrong).
"Is it possible that, while there wasn't a world-wide flood, that there was at one point a flooding of the known civilized world (ie, the Mediterranean and Middle East) about 5,000 years ago?"
I don't see how, but the tsunami two years ago shows how widespread and devastating a flood can be.
Fundamentalist in a nutshell. However, you use the computers, the medicines and whatever science discovers. So, it´s enough for them to carry on not to believe in God.
@Hollio
There are actually several theories on that score, since there exist numerous flood myths with many differing cultures in the Middle and Near East.
Not surprising really. Most of humanity lived near rivers back in those days, and anyone living near a river will attest to the potential devastation from floods.
And if one doesn't believe in observable reality then facts, observations and measurments are not "proof" But it is to me.
For those asking about a real flood:
A ruin in the middle east was excavated
that had a single flood deposit 11 feet deep. It was speculated that this was the actual flood that inspired the Noah story.
It was claimed that a seashore was found on the bottom of the Black Sea.
Seashells from this place were carbon dated at 9000 years old. It was suggested that the expansion of the Black sea at this time inspired the Noah story.
As I stated before, when a person draws a conclusion that directly contradicts the Bible account I do not believe that individual in that subject.
So, in other words:
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Nutshell award, indeed.
Fundie, dumb, and stupid is no way to go through life, mdd344.
Sidenote: Was using both dumb and stupid redundant? Sure but I felt that good ol' mdd344 deserved it.
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