IMO there is no such thing as "just friends" from a guys perspective, and if there is then the guy is gay.
Sorry to sound so harsh, but I just don't believe its possible. I don't know any guy who says about a girl " oh shes just a friend " without admitting that he would like it to go further. From a womans perspective I think it is possible, but sometimes women just don't get how we think. Somewhere between food, and sleep is sex.
I feel bad for you brother, I'm glad your walk with God is your focus. I agree with no2flesh, you have to draw the line.
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What *is* it with these people, they think that just because I, a woman, have male friends, I'm automatically going to sleep with them?
Just because you are a knuckle dragging neanderthal that thinks of if a female in next to you, that means she wants sex, doesn't mean all males behave like that.
I have male friends and neither of us wanna jump each others bones.
he kinda has a point... lol
were i single, and the girl within my standards of attractiveness (not amazingly high) i'd hit it. i would not however cheat on someone i really loved. but single? hellz yea! most of the girls im "just friends" with now, i at one point had something happen with.
oh, and he does'nt say women cant be friends with guys, its guys who cant be "just friends" with girls. ladder theory explains it
"IMO there is no such thing as "just friends" from a guys perspective, and if there is then the guy is gay."
He has a little bit of a point, but not really. If that were the case, then I guess one could not have friendships with female siblings, aunts, nieces, cousins, etc. Obviously, outside of family, for female friends that are not in relationships, many males would be willing to "go further", others would not, sheerly due to having known that friend and been in a platonic relationship with them for so long. It depends on the man and the relationship.
So just because you, lostsheep, consider women nothing more than fuck mates, that means the rest of us have to view them that way, too?
I have many female friends. I can categorize them more or less neatly (with some shoehorning) into categories ranging from "would love to be more than just friends" to "don't want to be more than just friends at all". They're all great buddies.
I'm a female, and yes, all of my guy mates probably DO want to sleep with me (not tooting my own horn, but they all seem to think I'm rather attractive! w00t go me! anyways) yeah, they may WANT to sleep with me. Doesn't mean they WILL!
Besides, my group of mates consists of my on-again, off-again (at the moment ex) boyfriend and what WERE his mates, but are now mine as well. Whatever happens between the ex and I, they don't worry about. On the occasions I am single, they don't hit on me and automatically wanna fuck me, they have what is known as respect. I suggest you learn some!
What is it with these people with having friends?! They sound like immature preteens or teenagers, even.
"He's just a friend."
"Oh, no, he's not! He can't be, he's a boy! Boys and girls can't be 'just friends.'"
"Why not?"
"Because...because boys have cooties!"
Uh, yes, they can be 'just friends,' and they have been. What if a woman's male friend is completely unattractive? What if a guy's female friend already has a boyfriend/husband? What if the guy friend or girl friend is homosexual? Do you seriously believe that the married person will want to sleep with them? Seriously? Blacks and whites were once segregated, now we have to completely segregate men and women as well? Give me a break.
I've heard this kind of thing from a lot of non-christian guys, too. Usually the ones who want to screw every woman they see. They think every man on earth is that way, and I guess most of them are, but not all of them. I've had a couple of boyfriends who didn't think about sex ENOUGH for me. One of them was damn near asexual.
WMDKitty :
That's 'cause you're a silly female who can't comprehend the immense level of the sexual appetites of human males, which of course you don't possess because you are created strictly for breeding and were not intended to desire or enjoy sex. Therefore you will be easy prey for those conniving males if you don't have a male relative or a husband to watch over you at all times. YOU DON'T KNOW THE DANGER YOU'RE IN!
Please establish your credentials, lostsheep, to discuss psychology. So that we all may see the basis for these beliefs you have. Cuz so far, I don't see a citation anywhere.
"I can't have any female friends becuase I'd be secretly lusting after them." That is just pathetic and sad. You are missing out. Some of my best friends are men and there is no secret sexual tension. Most I have known for so long it would be creepy, like having sex with your brother.
Maybe you should just try and get over it? What's next? Men can't work for a female boss as they might be secretly attracted to her? Women can't run for office because they might be attractive and men might vote for them based on that... oh wait I guess that's a moot point for you.
These are getting old. My brother is 'just friends' with a woman who basically threw herself at him when they were both single. Personally, I thought she'd be perfect for him, but she's not his type. He introduced her to her now husband. The three of them hang out a lot.
I've been on trips with male coworkers, alone out in the middle of nowhere, nothing happened.
I've been told in the office, that they 'forget I'm female'. Yeah some of them are absolute horndogs, that I'm amazed aren't humping the side of their desk, but they're mostly in the under 25 range.
"IMO there is no such thing as "just friends" from a guys perspective, and if there is then the guy is gay."
I'd prove you wrong with my own experience, but...*handfall*
Bullshit. My closest friend since around junior high has been an extremely attractive young woman. As a 17 year old high school student who spends most of his time trying to figure out how to convince women to sleep with me, I can say that it is absolutely possible to have a good looking girl as a friend, not want to fuck her, and to not be gay.
One of my main friends in school was a girl, who happened to be going out with another one of my friends.
So yeah, nmay not be possible for this sheep, but it is for others.
Just because you can't handle a platonic relationship with women, doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
I have quite a few female friends. Yes, I do find all of them attractive but that's because they are nice, funny, intelligent women. All of them I have known since before I met my wife and we've had plenty of time to get together if that were going to happen. But it didn't and it won't so where's the problem in staying friends?
Do I want to sleep with any of them? No. I'm perfectly capable of not becoming a slavering sex beast every time I see a woman. It's a shame you don't have the same self-restraint.
"sometimes women just don't get how we think. "
Yeah, you would be out raping and killing women if you weren't terrified of the imaginary forever fire. Every other man would too.
if you can't control your dick, your not a man, your an animal. See, I don't need any other women, as I am dating the most wonderful human being on the planet. No, I tell a lie, the fucking universe. See, because I am with her, I desire no one else. Even before I met her, I could control myself, because many women where and still are my friends. If you don't think that's possible, then you have too little faith in our gender, and your justifying the worst acts that a man can do to a woman.
It's very possible. I can manage it.
Admittedly I do have female friends who I would go further with if circumstances permitted, but that doesn't go for all of them.
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Sorry to sound so harsh, but I just don't believe its possible.
Yeah, maybe not for you.
I don't know any guy who says about a girl " oh shes just a friend " without admitting that he would like it to go further.
I have guy friends that wouldn't sleep with me. My god, you have some major insecurity issues.
Somewhere between food, and sleep is sex.
Because that's all men think about right?
I don't know any guy who says about a girl " oh shes just a friend " without admitting that he would like it to go further.
Seriously, what the fuck? Are you unable to even contemplate the possibility. Fuck sakes, I have at least a dozen friends - some close, some not so much - that I wouldn't dream of trying to fuck .
Sorry for the frank language, but that what this fucking moronic cunt means.
It's sad to see people think so badly of their own gender, whether they are female or male.
and my dad has women friends that I know he doesn't particularly want to sleep with, and he's definitely not gay, as attested by my existence.
This reminds me of the XX factor blog where a woman reported she knew a man who said, "I have never seen a woman I didn't want to sleep with." She concluded that he didn't actually want to have sex with every woman in the world - he just didn't "see" the women whom he didn't find attractive.
I think lostsheep has a similar problem. It's not that he's had lots of female friends and wanted have sex with them all, it's that he can't imagine interacting with a woman on any level other than a sexual one. He would never want to be "just friends" with a woman, therefore, friendship isn't possible.
ever hear of boundries?
I don't have many female friends but that's because I have little in common with most. But when I have common ground (books, tv shows, general interest) I can indeed call them friends more than some male friends with narrower interests
What a god damned jerk. If two men are friends, then according to this fundie they are also gay. One of my friends is a girl, but not a "girlfriend", and I definitely wouldn't like it to go further. If you haven't heard of a guy like that, I believe it's because your social life sucks, and you don't undertand people at all.
Gotta love it when fundies are against hatred, anger, homosexuality and everything else out there that is human and perfectly normal.
most people have evolved to the point where we don't require sex from every living thing we happen upon. Fundies aren't usually quite there, but that's likely a byproduct of their self loathing and manual suppression of sexuality. Being a gay guy I have a few female friends that are just friends of course, and also several guy friends that I have no desire to sleep with even if some of them are willing. Many of my (straight) male friends have a few female friends that they're not sexually interested in. Apparently if you don't suppress every sexual urge you have you can gain a little bit of focus rather than fantasizing about any woman you see.
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