A ton of video games have violence in them. I love Call of Duty 4 and it involves killing. The one thing I don't like in GTA4 is the nudity. has anyone mentioned that yet? I don't necessarily mind the violence but the nudity is a major turn-off. GTA4 is full of sexual references and I won't play it because of that.
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I don't get this violence=ok/ sexuality=OMG SCANDALOUS mindset. When I was younger, my mom had no problem with me seeing a love scene in a movie (Nothing explicit, obviously, just your general garden-variety kissing, etc), but wouldn't let me watch violent movies. I think that makes much more sense than the other way around.
I think it was Jack Nicholson who said something like "If you show a breast in a movie, you get an R rating. If you cut a breast off with a chainsaw, you get PG-13."
Has he found a feature on GTA4 that I'm not aware of? I haven't found any actual nudity. Even the strippers in the "Gentlemen's Clubs" are wearing g-strings and pasties or bikini tops. There is a ton of sexual humor and crude language, but it's laughable to think that this is more offensive than assassination and bank robbery missions.
If you don't have a sense of humor, or you can't separate fiction from reality, don't play Rockstar games.
You know, as a Brit, I think this is a very recurring theme in America. In films as well - showing people getting shot in the face is fine, but nipples are raw evil.
In Lugaru, one character, a female anthropomorphic rabbit, had to be reanimated because she did not wear a shirt in the original version. Of course, no one cared about the fact that she later gets killed by having her throat torn out and being thrown off a cliff.
OH NO THERE ARE BOOBS ON MY TV
Interestingly enough, GTA is a very nonlinear game and I think you could play around it. I mean, if you want.
Actually, I don't play GTA games because they are disgusting and worthless. However:
-I wouldn't stop anyone else from playing GTA.
-I wouldn't blame something like Columbine on GTA.
-I am not going to rally and go door to door with petitions against GTA, and start burning copies of it to make a point.
The guy has a point, though. I am not aware of too many video games that tastefully use nudity. Actually, I am not aware of even one.
Did I ever mention I write video game reviews for IGN?
Typical fundie.. killing is ok, but a glimpse of a breast ! Horror beyond belief!
We are born nude, you idiot.
Adam and Eve were created naked, but non-violent, in a state God called perfect (until that whole fall business).
It seems you're backwards, douche bag.
I would rather children watch two people make love, than watch two people rip each other to shreds.
If that is evil in your philosophy then you are one fucked up individual.
Edit: I just had to add that this is in keeping with fundie attitudes towards gays adopting children. I guess in their minds it's better for a child to grow up in an abusive heterosexual home than a loving gay one.
Sick bastards.
Sex is worse than killing? The hell?
Well, now that I think about it that's not so irrational. I mean, the Bible practically condones mass murder and genocide, but always oppresses female sexuality. Cos a nekkid woman is worse than death. Yeah.
Blood and guts = good ol' fashioned American fun.
Naughty bits = Ewww, gross, icky, and evil!
Awwww ...is it wrong that I feel the same way?
Of course fundies love Call of Duty 4, it combines their two favorite things: killing communists and killing Arabs. GTA 4, however, has sex and bad language in it, it's the debbil's game!
So gratuitous violence and bloodshed are just fine, but flash a tit, and suddenly it's OHNOEZ TEH NOODITEE!!!1!
Yeah, sounds like a Fundie.
<<comeplete[sic] and utter decimation of the opposing team>>
"Decimate" doesn't mean "kill 'em all", it means to kill one out of ten, usually chosen by lot.
yeah well that's because you're (almost certainly) an American and you have horrifically skewed views of decency because we live in a fucked up society.
Edit: @ Fek'lhr: tase is a different thing all together. I'd hardly say the violence in GTA4 is done in good taste either. It's just one of those bizarre things where American society dictates that sex and nudity are much more horrible things than theft and murder.
Fucked up priorities much?
Well, I can't completely rule out a Poe, this sounds a bit too perfect, but after two years of reading FSTDT...
I've never understood this. You can run over a crowd of random pedestrians, mow down the paramedics who come to the scene with an assault rifle, use a sniper rifle to kill the driver of the police car that comes to the scene from a distance, rocket launcher the next police car that comes, then hop in the ambulance to run from the police on your way to hijack a helicopter (running down more pedestrians on the way, naturally), which you can then use to chop people into confetti with the rotors (although this in particular is really quite tricky). Then hold a live grenade in your hand while running into a group of cops (shouting "ALLAHU AKBAR" is optional). Not only do you not get into trouble for this, but if you have a relationship with the right girlfriend you don't even have to pay the usual hospital fee. And people are fine with this. But getting a lap dance at a strip club? That's over the line.
Hey, I mix the two. I'll sex up a prostitute in my car, then beat her to death with a bat and steal back my cash, plus her pink dildo.
And then I beat other people to death with the dildo.
Oh, Rockstar.
@ PhoenixUltima: I laughed so hard at your post, you have no idea. Now I really want to see if I can actually do all of that in one shot. Well, I've done everything but the shouting of "ALLAHU AKBAR" and the chopper blades, so that'll be my video game challenge for the night.
Maybe it's my "Swedish sin" gene, but I'd much prefer nudity to violence.
Being naked is something I do twice a day, before I dress in the morning and after I undress in the evening.
I wouldn't dream of intentionally hurting someone in real life.
Nudity hurts no-one, violence always hurts someone.
Violence is okay, but nudity is a no-no?
... I... I can't really say anything about this. All I can do is just slap my face in embarassment.
Rapture Ready. The website for good Christians who are happy to commit mass murder but get upset at the sight of human genitalia.
(PS idiot, there's a 50/50 chance that the bits displayed in any nude picture are the same as yours. Big deal, eh?)
The average IQ of posters on that board must struggle to reach 50.
Rapture Ready. The website for good Christians who are happy to commit mass murder but get upset at the sight of human genitalia.
(PS idiot, there's a 50/50 chance that the bits displayed in any nude picture are the same as yours. Big deal, eh?)
The average IQ of posters on that board must struggle to reach 50.
So you enjoy blowing up cops and pimps, but don't like nudity or sexual references?
Since you are a disciple 'of' god,
I can understand the violence, I guess.
Uh, GTA4 does not have any nudity in the basic game, which was all that was out at the time this was posted. One of the downloadable expansion packs has male nudity, but not in a sexual manner.
The only game I am aware of that has full female nudity is L.A. Noire, and all the nude figures are murder victims. If these people think seeing a dead woman whose face looks like it went through a meat grinder is sexual just because she had no clothes on, they're downright sick.
Shooting bodies, good.
Shooting over bodies, bad.
Probably one of the most insane manifestations of human moral dissonance that you can have.
For me it is the other way round...
Nudity is a major turnon, but violence a turnoff - except maybe spanking.
And light bondage, but that is not really violence...
Man, I am drifting off..
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