One more example of how wrong is portrayed as right and right is made to be wrong. It is a young ladies responsibility to dress in such a manner that will NOT cause young men --or older ones-- to "look twice".....for the wrong reasons, I might add.
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False, it is the responsibility of men to not be creepy fuckers perving after high school girls. Men, contrary to what you apparently believe, have self control and should utilize it more often. It is not the responsibility of women not to be raped, it is the responsibility of men not to rape.
I can understand Sandra's concerns a little bit. After all, we all know that Christianity is a testosterone mismanagement system for beardies, both actual and virtual. On the other hand, I'm surprised that such an old girl attracted their attention. Although, in retrospect, and in the Christian men's favour, I understand she was seen to move.
Plus, I imagine it's difficult to control instinctual behaviour and avoid involuntary responses when you don't have a mind.
"It is a young ladies responsibility to dress in such a manner that will NOT cause young men --or older ones-- to "look twice".....for the wrong reasons, I might add."
This sets up "look how she dressed-she was asking for it!" rape apologetics the same way that "WHO is on first!" sets up "What're you asking *me* for??"
It is any old guy's responsibility to NOT "look twice" for the wrong reason at a young lady even if scantily clad.
Honestly, have you even HEARD yourself speak?
It is a lady's responsibility to use proper grammar and spelling when expressing herself in writing.
It's a man's responsibility not to behave like peeping toms in the presence of a woman, regardless of what she's wearing.
* Yes, I'm happily married, but imagination don't stop at the altar. Hubby is always saying "seize her and bring her to me" when he sees a cute woman on TV, and he almost drools when he sees Shakira. He looks at me very sternly if I do the same when a cute guy is on TV...
@ Hasan Prishtina
Actually, there is a fetish for face veiling. The more you conceal, the more some want to reveal.
Two words completely annihilate your 'argument', Sandy:
Self Control.
We normal, decent, civilised, sane men have that in our psychological makeup.
Your own Holy Spook looked twice at that underage Mary , so thanks for admitting that your 'moral' God is a worse -than wrong 'un, when it comes to young women, and she was dressed in a manner to not cause the infinite -year old God to look upon her in a wrong way; so in a way you're right:
Good - God - is Evil.
...otherwise, what was stopping your supposedly 'Omnipotent ' God in just poofing Jesus into being out of thin air? Oh yes, that's right: he could do so with the universe, this world & all the animal life on such, but he wasn't 'Omnipotent' enough to do the same with Adam.
A 'God' that limits his own omnipotence is no God.
So thanks Sandy, for proving the non existence of your 'God'. And in two ways, no less. You said it, I didn't.
It is a young ladies responsibility to dress in such a manner that will NOT cause young men --or older ones-- to "look twice"
And that only counts if you assume men are incapable of controlling themselves... and since we lock up people like that and do not let them have any kind of power over others, you've just gone so far into radical feminism it's comical.
Who'd have thought that Fundies would be so against men being in charge?
"And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell." - Matthew 18:9
Pretty sure these guys' moral playbook covers how they should react if someone's dress is causing them to "look twice". If they choose not to follow their own rules, that's on them.
@Anon-e-moose
Sandy you can take your god and shove it!
Uh, Ma'am....
It DOES go both ways....image
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That's were common sense goes wrong : countries were burqa is worn have as much rape as other countries. And rape on beaches is a very uncommon event - event though most ladies there are in provocative swimsuit.
I can understand the mistake(nearly thought like that, not long ago) - yet, it's a mistake. It's better to prepare tour society to manage sexual frustration(that will happen whater) than to try to hide it.
So... all women should dress in burqhas? Oh wait, even then they get men staring at them "for the wrong reasons."
Maybe part of the problem is the males with no self-control. Even as a hormonal teenager, I was able to behave like a decent human being & not ogle every girl in a dress made after the Victorian age.
Why do these people not grasp the concept of "personal accountability"? It's always the victim's fault, unless they're the victim.
And your post, Sandra dearest, is one more example of someone who thinks they are right when in fact they are very, very wrong.
Most men can control themselves, although "looking" in itself is really quite harmless. Years ago I walked past a ground floor hotel window, in the room with the curtains wide open in broad daylight was a completely naked and quite attractive woman lying on the bed. Did I break in and commit some illegal act upon her person? Of course not.
Fundies like to portray men as the the intellectuals and decision makers and women as the servants except when women are not dressing up to their standards and then men are suddenly mindless cavemen who can't help themselves.
Make up your mind fundies.
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