oooh thats right, i totally forgot that the big bang actually is
firstly it defies all logic, the tool you athiests like to use alot,
so tell me...if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
so check the hole before you stick you schlong in it...n00bs.
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Where'd God come from? If we need to explain to the very begining where the universe came from, you have to too. And saying "God always was" isn't going to cut it, as it just so happens that doesn't say where God began. Where'd God begin?
Napoleon, they don’t have to explain where God came from. That’s the essential aspect of religious doctrine that renders it absolutely immune to logic, reason, or rhetoric. If it requires no evidence, then how can you disprove that evidence? Dogmatic faith is the perfect armor, making the believer a rock that can not be moved.
If you took the time to learn a bit about the big bang theory, rather than just attacking it, you might learn that physics has explicitly said that it cannot make any predictions about what happened before the big bang happened, because there is no observable evidence, and so it's not even going to try. Where the singularity that became the universe came from is not a question for science, and nobody knowledgeable has ever claimed that it was.
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Napoleon, they don’t have to explain where God came from. That’s the essential aspect of religious doctrine that renders it absolutely immune to logic, reason, or rhetoric. If it requires no evidence, then how can you disprove that evidence? Dogmatic faith is the perfect armor, making the believer a rock that can not be moved.
Modified Proof 11 for God:
If you don't like the explanation, go to school, study it, get your Phd, and prove it wrong. That's what science is. We do not claim to know everything, but we do promise to keep searching by using testable, logical, and observable means.
Napoleon - That's the beauty of it! Some theories state that time as we know it didn't exist until the big bang occurred, so there literally has been matter and energy for all of time.afterwards . There is plenty of room for God in there if people insist on adding arbitrary complexity like that.
I'm sorry, I may not be up on my modern fundie, but isn't it considered vulgar, and thus sinful, to say things like "Check the hole before you stick you[r] schlong in it"?
Of course, your creation story requires such logical events as:
what, with the whole idea that this universe
Your description is wrong, but I'll humor you. If you don't like everything coming from a molecular sized piece of rock, how can you be comfortable with god making everything out of nothing ?
The humoring ends here.
if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
thing, where did the rock come from?
The rock probably came from the same place as your god. Someone heard about something and pulled some stories out of his ass to make it fit in his world view.
oooh thats right, i totally forgot that the big bang actually is
Your ignorance of the feasibility of the big bang has no impact on whether or not it occurred (and, in the sense that physicists mean when they talk about it, it most certainly did).
...what, with the whole idea that this universe somehow "exploded" from a molecular sized piece of rock...
Well, by putting exploded in quotes, you showed that you aren't a complete tool. I guess that just makes you an incomplete tool, though. Especially since the universe did not expand from a
"molecular sized piece of rock". It expanded from something smaller than the smallest hypothesized subatomic particle, which was, most certainly, not made of matter (it would be quite some time before the universe would cool down enough for even the smallest pieces of matter to form).
firstly it defies all logic,
No. It defies your idea of how the world should work. I'm willing to bet that quantum mechanics is at least as counter-intuitive to you as big bang cosmology, but you probably accept that it is at least partially right.
the tool you athiests like to use alot,
I usually don't nitpick spelling, but it's atheists. And, to remind you, you're the tool here.
which more or less throws the whole big bang theory out the window.
Except that it doesn't, because you have yet to make a valid point against it. In fact, I'm willing to bet a decently large sum of money that you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, as you don't understand big bang cosmology at all, let alone well enough to critique it.
so tell me...if the universe in its entirety came from such a small
thing, where did the rock come from?
I realize that your head is full of them, but you've really got to get over this obsession with referring to things you don't personally understand as "rocks".
so check the hole before you stick you schlong in it...n00bs.
Buddy, you better hope there's no people here with anal fetishes, because you're a hole, and all that comes out of you is shit and a noxious wind.
Then again, I'll bet that, even if there are, they know to avoid something so obviously diseased.
NonHomogenized: less than 1 second is "quite some time"? As I remember, the first quarks were formed less than a second after T0. Of course, they didn't last long, but they did form.
"NonHomogenized: less than 1 second is "quite some time"? As I remember, the first quarks were formed less than a second after T0. Of course, they didn't last long, but they did form."
firstly it defies all logic, the tool you athiests like to use alot
Sigh. As has been said before:
IF GOD CAN COME FROM NOTHING SO CAN THE BIG BANG.
Also, maybe look into what us atheists call "evidence." Clearly you have yet to stumble upon the concept.
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